Most people invest in sales training from someone who never actually sold at the level they want to reach. This episode unpacks why that gap is the hidden reason so many ambitious people stay stuck, and why the cost of inaction is almost always greater than the cost of learning. If you have been grinding without results or wondering why the skills you picked up online are not translating, this conversation will reframe how you think about investing in yourself.

Jeremy Miner, founder of 7th Level and creator of the NEPQ methodology, and his business partner Cory Crump, break down the psychology behind why people resist investing in skills, the pattern recognition that separates top performers from everyone else, and why culture, not your offer, determines whether a company scales past $40 million. Built for anyone serious about sales psychology, high performance mindset, and business growth.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(08:36) Founder Syndrome Nobody Talks About

(20:11) Building for the Next Generation

(26:06) Culture Is the Only Scaling Strategy

(31:52) Why Your Trainer's Resume Matters

(37:49) The Trust Recession in This Industry

(43:07) Why He Thinks Like a Psychologist

(48:11) The Cost of Waiting vs Investing

(53:02) Mastery Is Not a Destination

(58:32) Pattern Recognition Changes Everything

Jeremy says most people hire trainers who never hit the level they teach. Drop a comment: have you ever checked your trainer's actual track record?

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755

Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/

Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/

The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminer

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

The sale usually dies the moment the prospect feels like you are trying to sell them. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Anthony Vizzari, VP of Growth at 7th Level, to break down why the best closers do not rely on pressure, fake rapport, or recycled scripts. Anthony shares how thousands of calls trained him to spot buyer patterns instantly and how identity shapes performance long before skill ever shows up on the call.

They also get into early event failures, what changed when they stopped overtraining audiences, why amateurs stay trapped in the prospect’s story, and what it really takes to reach sales mastery over time. If you want to sell with more certainty, read buyers faster, and stop triggering resistance before the conversation even gets going, this episode is for you.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:47) Early 7th Level Event Mistakes and Overtraining Buyers

(03:01) What Changed When They Simplified the Offer

(07:08) How Anthony First Found Jeremy Miner

(09:18) Why Jeremy Started 7th Level

(15:47) Sales Culture in Australia vs America

(18:57) Why Prospects Shut Down When They Feel Sold

(25:34) Buyer Environment, Identity, and Sales Psychology

(29:33) Pattern Recognition and What Real Sales Reps See

(35:49) Why You Never Outperform The Way You See Yourself

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755

Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/

Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/

The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminer

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Connect with Anthony

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anthonyvizzari/

Website: https://anthony-vizzari.com/

Most people fail their fitness goals for the same reason they fail in business. They chase massive results instead of mastering the small inputs that actually compound. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Greg O Gallagher, founder of KinoBody and one of the leading voices in lifestyle driven fitness.

Greg explains why most people are not actually training, why progressive overload beats extreme workout plans, and how stacking small wins builds confidence, discipline, and real results. If you want a movie star physique, stronger mindset, and a system that actually works, this conversation will change how you approach fitness and success.

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755

Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/

Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/

The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminer

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Connect with Greg

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gregogallagher/

Website: https://www.kinobody.com/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Kinobody

X: https://x.com/gregogallagher

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gregogallagherofficial/

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He smashed his own Lamborghini windshield in the middle of Miami to go viral. But that is not why he is winning. Spencer Kozej is a life insurance sales leader who built a virtual sales brand after dropping out of college and moving to Florida. He now recruits and develops young sales professionals by teaching communication, branding, and discipline. In this episode, Spencer explains how your environment shapes belief, why mastering sales guarantees leverage for life, and how to use attention strategically instead of chasing clout. He also shares how faith, accountability, and daily discipline helped him grow in an environment built on distraction. If you are young and serious about building income, influence, and skill, this conversation will challenge the way you think about your future. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(01:15) Failing School and Questioning the Traditional Path(04:30) The Leap of Faith and Moving to Florida(08:10) Why Mentorship Collapses Time(12:05) Sales as Financial Security for Life(15:20) Using Psychology in Business and Relationships(18:10) Smashing the Lamborghini and Going Viral(20:10) Turning Attention into a Sales Funnel(25:00) Faith, Discipline, and Avoiding Distraction(30:50) Interested vs Committed to Success(33:40) Accountability and Building a Sales TeamAre you committed to mastering a skill that guarantees leverage… or are you still letting your environment decide your future? Leave your answer in the comments.Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Spencer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spencer.kozej/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpencerKozej TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/spencer-kozej

Selling feels hard when you think your job is to convince people. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Myron Golden, sales expert, business coach, and stage speaker known for helping entrepreneurs produce multi million dollar results, to talk about why persuasion and convincing are not the same thing. Myron shares how he went 18 months without making a single sale before learning how identity, belief systems, and service change everything in the sales process. They talk about why objections are usually created before they are ever spoken, how to become findable to buyers who already want what you offer, the four types of buyers that determine your income ceiling, and why money becomes the byproduct once mastery becomes the focus. If you want selling to feel natural instead of forced, this conversation will change the way you see it.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:48) Myron’s Entry Into Sales And Early Struggles

(03:02) Why Network Marketing Fails To Teach Selling

(07:56) Mindset + Skillset + Toolset Framework

(12:10) Transitioning Into Selling From Stage

(19:00) The $1.2M In One Hour Client Story

(21:06) The Four Types Of Buyers Explained

(30:03) Preventing Objections Before They Form

(36:27) Becoming Findable To Ready Buyers

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755

Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/

Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist

The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Connect with Myron

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/themyrongolden/

Website: https://myrongolden.com/

YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@MyronGolden

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myrongoldenofficial

Listen to the Next Level Podcast

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

Most people get told “no” and spiral. Giuliano Massarelli gets told “no” and turns it into content, attention, and sales. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Giuliano Massarelli, known as The Wolf of Insurance, to break down how he sells life insurance through his DMs, why he posts at extreme volume to stay omnipresent, and how he built momentum fast by treating selling like a skills game. They talk tonality, verbal pacing, using energy to control emotional states, and the simple mirror and smile habit that changes how you sound on the phone. If you want to build a personal brand that becomes a real pipeline, and learn how to stay confident through rejection, this episode is the playbook.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:33) How an 18 Year Old Got Into Sales Fast

(04:01) The Content Strategy That Took Off. Rejection Then Dance Then Post

(05:23) Omnipresence. Posting 20 to 30 Times a Day to Own a Niche

(07:21) Tonality and Verbal Pacing. Where He Learned It

(09:59) Selling Is Something You Do For People. Protecting Families

(24:39) The Mirror and Smile Method. Being “On Stage” in Every Call

Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755

Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/

Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist

The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org

Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112

Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/

Connect with Jeremy Miner

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Connect with Juliano

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianomass/?hl=en

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliano-massarelli-818b8534b/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Wolfofinsurance

Listen to the Next Level Podcast

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV