Episodes

  • A Ministry of Banking: Jared Evans

    A Ministry of Banking: Jared Evans
    May 21 2024
    Is work just a job, or could it be a calling? Amber and Tom talk with Jared Evans, a community manager for JPMorgan Chase, about how he views his job in banking as “love work.” Find out why – and consider how the concept of calling could apply to your own work. Plus: Money as transaction versus money as relationship Jared’s experience with debt and why we should give ourselves more grace What an elevator operator, Steph Curry, and the rest of us share in common With nearly 25 years of experience in the financial services industry, Jared Evans serves as a Chicago-based Community Manager at JPMorgan Chase, building and nurturing relationships with key community leaders, nonprofit partners, and small businesses at the neighborhood level. Follow Jared on LinkedIn. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads, and share your thoughts with us by emailing info@moneymeetmeaning.com.
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    49 mins
  • The Radical Simplicity of a Credit Union: Rev. Winnie Varghese

    The Radical Simplicity of a Credit Union: Rev. Winnie Varghese
    May 14 2024
    Is wealth inequality a spiritual issue? If so, what can our religious institutions do about it – and how can we, as individuals, best love our neighbors … financially? This week, Tom and Amber talk with Rev. Winnie Varghese about economic justice and its scriptural roots. A national leader in the Episcopal Church, Rev. Winnie helped the Diocese of New York develop a credit union while serving at Trinity Church Wall Street in NYC. She shares how the credit union is a ministry: a way to provide financial services that re-imagines church – and community. GUEST: Currently the Rector of St. Luke’s Episcopal Church in Atlanta, Rev. Winnie is known for her inspired writing, teaching, and preaching. Check out Rev. Winnie’s book, Church Meets World, and follow her on LinkedIn and X. For more episodes and info, visit Money, Meet Meaning. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads, and share your thoughts with us by emailing info@moneymeetmeaning.com.
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    52 mins
  • Parenting in the Age of the Cashless Kid: Reza Aslan & Jessica Jackley

    Parenting in the Age of the Cashless Kid: Reza Aslan & Jessica Jackley
    May 7 2024
    Money, parenting, religion … oh my! Any one of these is tricky to navigate on its own. But weaving them all together? Leveraging faith traditions to inform how to teach kids how to think, talk, and act with money? Amber and Tom chat with interfaith couple Reza Aslan, a bestselling author and renowned scholar of world religions, and Jessica Jackley, an entrepreneur and investor, about what they most want to teach their kids about money – and how their respective faiths shape the values they hope to instill. GUESTS: Reza Aslan is a recipient of the prestigious James Joyce award, the author of three internationally best-selling books, including the #1 New York Times Bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth, and a co-host of Metaphysical Milkshake, a podcast with Rainn Wilson. Jessica Jackley is best known as a co-founder of Kiva, the world’s first crowdfunding site for microenterprises, and is the author of CLAY WATER BRICK. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads, and share your thoughts with us by emailing info@moneymeetmeaning.com. For more episodes and info, visit Money, Meet Meaning.
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    45 mins
  • Riches vs. Richness: Dr. James Hollis

    Riches vs. Richness: Dr. James Hollis
    Apr 30 2024
    Does money make us happy? And should happiness be our goal for a life well-lived? To find out, Amber and Tom talk with Dr. James Hollis, a renowned Jungian psychoanalyst who has written extensively about happiness, meaning, and fulfillment. Dr. Hollis shares why happiness is actually overrated, why a life of meaning should be our goal instead, and how paying attention to the “numinous” can lead to a meaningful life with money. Plus: Dr. Hollis explains the impact of inherited money “scripts” - which might get you thinking about your own. Amber talks bargain salmon, Tom talks chili garlic paste, and Dr. Hollis talks internal compasses. Find out how our feelings, energy, and even dreams can inform our financial decision-making. Dr. James Hollis is a prolific author and educator. Be sure to check out his numerous books and videos. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads, and share your thoughts with us by emailing info@moneymeetmeaning.com.
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    54 mins
  • BONUS: Amber's Mama Buys Lunch

    BONUS: Amber's Mama Buys Lunch
    Apr 28 2024
    Saundra's back with her voicemail reviews of our latest episode on Jesse Mecham. Be like Saundra! record your review on a voice memo and send it to: info@moneymeetmeaning.com. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads.
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    1 min
  • The Spiritual Life of Budgets: Jesse Mecham

    The Spiritual Life of Budgets: Jesse Mecham
    Apr 23 2024
    Can a budget bring you peace? Tom and Amber find out how with Jesse Mecham, personal finance expert and founder of the super popular YNAB (You Need A Budget) app. Jesse shares how money can help us express ourselves in the best of ways - and how his own faith has helped shape his business since Day 1. Plus: Tom makes a couple confessions Amber shares why budgeting, to her, is a spiritual experience Jesse explains why giving is the ultimate middle finger Follow YNAB on Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads, and share your thoughts with us by emailing info@moneymeetmeaning.com. Jesse’s WSJ Best-Selling Book: You Need A Budget Jesse’s Top-Rated Financial Podcast: You Need A Budget
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    46 mins
  • BONUS: Amber's Mama's MMM Review

    BONUS: Amber's Mama's MMM Review
    Apr 20 2024
    Amber's mom Saundra, famed far and wide for her A-Level voicemail stylings, will grace this bonus series with her Money, Meet Meaning episode reviews! For more episodes and info visit Money, Meet Meaning at RNS.
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    1 min
  • Introducing Money, Meet Meaning

    Introducing Money, Meet Meaning
    Apr 16 2024
    In this powerful debut episode, co-hosts Tom Levinson (Jewish) and Amber Hacker (Christian), along with guest Eboo Patel (Muslim), swap practical takeaways for our financial lives – taken straight from the stories of their respective religious traditions. Along the way, they discover a surprising amount of overlap. Plus: Eboo gets Tom and Amber to share their “religion and money” origin stories Eboo the Godfather? How Money, Meet Meaning came to be Find out what The Notorious B.I.G. and the Talmud have in common Eboo Patel is the Founder and President of Interfaith America, the leading interfaith organization in the United States, and was named “one of America’s Best Leaders” by US News & World Report. Check out Eboo’s podcast, Interfaith America with Eboo Patel, and follow him on LinkedIn and X. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and Threads, and share your thoughts with us by emailing info@moneymeetmeaning.com.
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    39 mins