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Marketing Beyond with Alan B. Hart

Marketing Beyond with Alan B. Hart

By: Alan B. Hart
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Join Alan B. Hart as he dives into conversations with the world's leading chief marketing officers and business innovators. Tune in to get inspired by the stories and experiences of marketing visionaries—and stay ahead of the curve.© 2025 Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • 31: Turning a marketing idea into a product: Insights from Sift's former Chief Marketing Officer Armen Najarian

    31: Turning a marketing idea into a product: Insights from Sift's former Chief Marketing Officer Armen Najarian
    Jan 7 2026
    What if your next marketing idea could become your company's most valuable product? Armen Najarian, former CMO at Sift, discusses the challenges of marketing in the digital fraud prevention industry, the power of incentives, and how a marketing solution became an impactful product innovation. Armen shares how creative referral programs like "Super Sifters" and a strong focus on third-party reviews have elevated Sift's market position and built lasting customer trust. He also explains how the company's Fraud Industry Benchmarking Resource (FIBR) tool began as a marketing initiative that faced internal pushback over essentially making company data open source. Despite the risks, the idea evolved into a real-time, peer comparison product feature—and ultimately became Sift's top demand generator. Armen's experience highlights the value of bold experimentation and cross-functional, innovative thinking in driving marketing-led growth. In this episode, you'll learn: The incentive strategies that move the needle for Sift How a bold marketing idea can turn into a standout product feature The benefits of finding a personal connection to your work Key highlights: [00:00] Introduction [01:05] Escaping to eastern Maine [03:15] Armen's path to Sift [05:20] The scope of Sift [06:20] From brand management to product marketing [07:55] 10 years in cybersecurity [10:10] Incentive strategies and bobble heads [13:45] How marketing can become a product [15:10] FIBR product demonstration [18:25] An experience that defines you: Entrepreneurship [22:40] Advice to your younger self: Don't sweat the small stuff [24:00] A topic marketers need to learn more about: Experimenting with AI [25:25] Trends and subcultures to watch: Philosophy [26:00] Largest opportunity to marketers today: AI Resources mentioned: Sift FIBR G2 Follow the podcast: Listen on Apple Podcasts   Listen on Amazon Music  Listen on Audible  Listen on iHeart Radio Listen on Spotify   Connect with Armen Najarian and Sift: Armen Najarian on LinkedIn Sift on LinkedIn Sift on YouTube Connect with Alan Hart and Deloitte Digital:    Alan Hart on X Alan Hart on LinkedIn  Deloitte Digital on LinkedIn  Deloitte Digital on Instagram  Deloitte Digital on YouTube  Deloitte Digital on Threads   
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    29 mins
  • 30: Building billion-dollar brands with purpose: Insights from Mars Wrigley North America & Global Ice Cream President Anton Vincent

    30: Building billion-dollar brands with purpose: Insights from Mars Wrigley North America & Global Ice Cream President Anton Vincent
    Dec 17 2025
    How can marketing leaders balance rapid change, emerging technology and brand purpose to drive lasting growth and loyalty across a portfolio of iconic brands? Anton Vincent, president of Mars Wrigley North America & Global Ice Cream, shares what it looks like to lead with purpose across a suite of powerhouse brands spanning confections, pet care and food. He discusses how Mars balances ambitious growth with a real commitment to responsibility, ensuring that business success and positive societal impact go hand in hand. Anton also underscores the strategic value of developing talent and enabling people to move across different business areas to encourage agility and fresh thinking. He shares why creativity remains essential for brands—especially as technology and analytics redefine what's possible—and highlights the discipline required to uphold quality and brand integrity in a crowded, fast-moving marketplace. Throughout the conversation, Anton stresses that enduring relevance and brand loyalty come from continuous learning and a clear understanding of both consumers and culture. In this episode, you'll learn: Why centering business growth with real purpose can create a lasting impact at scale How ideas supported by data and fueled by originality can capture and hold people's attention in today's crowded market Ways to build agile teams and nurture authentic brands to stay relevant in a constantly changing world Key highlights: [00:00] Introduction [01:30] Basketball talk [04:30] Anton's path to Mars [08:00] The scope of Mars [10:20] Alan's love to Hubba Bubba [12:20] Scale versus independence of brands [14:05] The Mars talent strategy [15:40] Navigating the evolving marketing ecosystem [18:20] Marketing that adapts to change [20:30] Notable recent work [22:05] An experience that defines you: Top Secret Popcorn recall [26:00] Advice to your younger self: Slow down [28:30] A topic marketers need to learn more about: Connecting creativity with technology [33:45] Largest opportunity or threat to marketers today: Constant learning Resources mentioned: Mars Wrigley SNICKERS NFL Bedtime with Josh Allen Follow the podcast: Listen on Apple Podcasts   Listen on Amazon Music  Listen on Audible  Listen on iHeart Radio Listen on Spotify   Connect with Anton Vincent and Mars Wrigley: Anton Vincent on LinkedIn Mars on LinkedIn Mars on Instagram Mars on YouTube Connect with Alan Hart and Deloitte Digital:    Alan Hart on X Alan Hart on LinkedIn  Deloitte Digital on LinkedIn  Deloitte Digital on Instagram  Deloitte Digital on YouTube  Deloitte Digital on Threads   
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    37 mins
  • 29: When a brand film works to shift perception: Insights from Lingokids CMO and COO Mikael Journo

    29: When a brand film works to shift perception: Insights from Lingokids CMO and COO Mikael Journo
    Dec 10 2025
    Lingokids Chief Marketing and Chief Operating officer (CMO and COO) Mikael Journo shares how he skillfully blends data-driven strategies with intuitive decision-making to strike a perfect balance between brand building and performance marketing. Drawing from his extensive career experience, Mikael discusses the challenges of marketing to modern parents and highlights how Lingokids—the leading interactive app for children ages 2–8—addresses their worries. When a recent study revealed that 75% of millennial parents feel guilty about their child's screen time, Mikael and his team saw an opportunity to lean in and shift the conversation. They did so by producing "The Trial," a film that directly confronts this issue and aims to ease parental guilt. Mikael also shares the thought process around the risks involved in the film and launch campaign, outlines the production process, and discusses the results that exceeded the brands expectations. In this episode, you'll learn: The importance of balancing intuition and brand building with data and performance marketing Challenges and strategies for marketing to modern parents Why and how Lingokids created a brand film Key highlights: [00:00] Introduction [01:30] The podcast's first shark wrestler [02:50] Mikael's path to Lingokids [08:30] The scope of Lingokids [11:05] Marketing as a growth driver [13:35] Balancing the dual roles of CMO and COO [16:25] Marketing to modern-day parents [18:30] "The Trial" brand film campaign [25:45] Navigating challenging subject matter [29:05] A big bet that paid off [31:10] An experience that defines you [34:00] Advice to your younger self [34:50] A topic marketers need to learn more about [36:15] Trends and subcultures to watch [39:40] Largest opportunity or threat to marketers today Resources mentioned: Screen time guilt survey "The Trial" (Lingokids brand film) Piel Studio Director, Diego Hurtado de Mendoza Composer, Fernando Velázquez Follow the podcast: Listen on Apple Podcasts   Listen on Amazon Music  Listen on Audible  Listen on iHeart Radio Listen on Spotify   Connect with Mikael Journo and Lingokids: Mikael Journo on LinkedIn Lingokids on Instagram Lingokids (for kids) on YouTube Lingokids (for grown-ups) on YouTube Connect with Alan Hart and Deloitte Digital:    Alan Hart on X Alan Hart on LinkedIn  Deloitte Digital on LinkedIn  Deloitte Digital on Instagram  Deloitte Digital on YouTube  Deloitte Digital on Threads   
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    42 mins
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