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Maintenance Phase

By: Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
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  • Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.
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  • Jamie Oliver
    Apr 4 2024

    In the 2000s, Jamie Oliver made a big splash with his work reforming kids’ meals in the UK and US. Was his work wicked slammin’, or just proper rustic?

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    Links!

    • BBC Profile - Jamie Oliver
    • Jamie Oliver Puts America's Diet on a Diet
    • All The Times Jamie Oliver Made Everyone Angry
    • Unpacking School Lunch: Understanding the Hidden Politics of School Food
    • A brief history of school meals in the UK
    • Turkey Twizzlers: A Complete History
    • Marcus Rashford Is Fighting the Government on Free School Meals. He’s Also Fighting Jamie Oliver’s Legacy
    • Has Jamie Bitten off More Than He Can Chew?
    • Jamie Oliver, you haven’t tasted real poverty
    • Jamie Oliver’s campaign against childhood obesity has classist undertones
    • Jamie’s jerk rice is a recipe for disaster

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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  • COVID Conspiracies
    Mar 7 2024

    What was missing from America's pandemic response? According to the internet, a sunshine vitamin, a malaria treatment and a whole lot of horse paste.

    Thanks to Health Nerd (Substack) for helping us fact-check this episode! And thanks to Abby Mahler (Twitter, Tiktok) for help with the research on hydroxychloroquine!

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    • Hear bonus episodes on Patreon
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    • Buy Aubrey's book
    • Listen to Mike's other podcast

    Links:

    • How Musk Sold MAGA on HCQ
    • Prominent Anti-Vaxxer’s Snake Oil Store Has a Propaganda Outlet
    • Nine COVID-19 Myths That Just Won’t Go Away
    • Disinformation and coronavirus
    • COVID-19 Conspiracy Theories Discussion on Twitter
    • Pain in the Nation
    • Are patients with hypertension and diabetes mellitus at increased risk for COVID-19 infection?
    • Conspiracy theories as barriers to controlling the spread of COVID-19 in the U.S.
    • Vaccines vs. vitamins: COVID misinformation roils the worlds of wellness and nutrition
    • A Decisive Verdict on Vitamin D Supplementation
    • Why were Twitter Users Obsessed with Vitamin D during the first year of the pandemic?
    • Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It
    • The Truth about Vitamin D and COVID-19
    • The Strange and Twisted Tale of Hydroxychloroquine
    • Is Ivermectin for Covid-19 Based on Fraudulent Research?

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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  • Ozempic
    Oct 10 2023

    Ozempic is being hailed as “the end of the Obesity Epidemic.” This week, Mike and Aubrey dig through the sensational claims. But will they make it past the caveats?

    Links:

    • How a Canadian scientist and a venomous lizard helped pave the way for Ozempic
    • The Discovery and Development of Liraglutide and Semaglutide
    • Ozempic and Wegovy maker courts prominent Black leaders to get Medicare's favor
    • Insurers clamping down on doctors who prescribe Ozempic for weight loss
    • Ozempic prescriptions can be easy to get online. Its popularity for weight loss is hurting those who need it most
    • Glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor agonists in patients with type 2 diabetes: real-world evidence from a Mediterranean area
    • Semaglutide in Patients with Heart Failure with Preserved Ejection Fraction and Obesity
    • Real-world weight change, adherence, and discontinuation among patients with type 2 diabetes initiating glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor agonists in the UK
    • Safety of Semaglutide
    • Semaglutide for the treatment of overweight and obesity: A review
    • Once-Weekly Semaglutide in Adolescents with Obesity
    • Semaglutide 2.4 mg for the Treatment of Obesity: Key Elements of the STEP Trials 1 to 5
    • Association of Glucagon-Like Peptide-1 Receptor Agonist Use With Risk of Gallbladder and Biliary Diseases
    • Real-World Adherence and Discontinuation of Glucagon-Like Peptide-1 Receptor Agonists Therapy in Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus Patients in the United States
    • Medications and conditions associated with weight loss in patients prescribed semaglutide based on real-world data

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

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    58 mins

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love it!

They are great! so funny and while I knew about Joseph Pilates never knew about Kathleen Stanford Grant. Great episode.

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All time favorite podcast

Aubrey & Michael are the best friends I’ve never met. If you’re mid thirties and grew up in a diet obsessed environment ALL the references hit.

Reasons to listen:

#1 The amount of research is impressive. I can never again uncritically accept nutrition study findings.
#2 I’m less of a jerk. They helped me recognize and end my own anti fat behaviors.
#3 it’s super entertaining. The format of the show (hosts take turns teaching one another about the topic) is great. You get to be shocked/angered at the same time as Michael or Aubrey!

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Hanging on every word

This podcast is SO hilarious. The podcasters feel like your best friends, the stories are hilarious and well-researched.

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my new favorite podcast

I love this podcast. Mike and Aubrey are my soul mates. I love the sass with their well-researched topics. I work in a college counseling center with students so brutalized by fat shaming, diet culture, etc. This is a great place to send them for an introduction to shutting off the never-enough megaphone so they can begin to love and accept their bodies and themselves. Thank you, thank you, thank yoi!

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My favorite podcast!

As a researcher, I appreciate the critical review of research and the presentation of facts. These two are knowledgeable AND entertaining. I hope they around for many years to come.

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My favorite podcast ever.

Snarky, warm and opinionated. Really deepened my understanding of the topic in a very entertaining way. Also, Aubrey and Mike have a great chemistry and are just fun to listen to.

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Rewiring our brains on what Healthy "looks like"

excellent episode. I'll be listening to this series based on this episode! Thank you Glennon and Abby for introducing me to this podcast!

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I love these hosts.

Always so informative and interesting. while the topics are complex, they are so good at unwinding the issues.

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Language my mother wouldn't approve but

This podcast is one of my favorites! Aubrey and Michael are so fun to listen to and I am so engaged in every single episode.

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Thank you Aubrey and Michael

First of all I almost had a wreck laughing when you tasted the celery juice. You two are so funny together. I’m enjoying the deep-dive, origin-story synthesis of American ridiculousness that got us into so many of these hilarious-in-hindsight predicaments like the Presidential Fitness what-the-eff-were-they-thinking. Although that is a shared American ordeal that can unite our fractured country at least for a nanosecond of conversation. And if somebody says “oh I thought that presidential fitness test was super fun” you know to get away fast. You have helped me to organize my own baked-in fat self-hate, the circus of diet hopes and highs and lows, the perils of being a weight loss Judas, the thick sludge of stupid opinions and concern trolling we all have to wade through. Thank you for radicalizing me.

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