MTM - Interview Dr. Michael Cloer..Should America Stand with Israel

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The headlines are loud, but the questions underneath are louder: Is the Israel we read about in scripture connected to the nation we see on today’s maps? And if so, what responsibility do Christians carry in a moment of grief, fear, and rising antisemitism? We invited Dr. Michael Clore—pastor, missionary, and longtime student of Israel—to help us sort conviction from clickbait and text from talking points.

We start by mapping the terrain: why some public figures say Christians shouldn’t support Israel, and why that misses what Paul argues in Romans 9–11. From there, we draw a clear line between two covenants many confuse. The Mosaic covenant is conditional and explains blessing and discipline; the Abrahamic covenant in Genesis 12 and 15 is unilateral and everlasting, with God alone passing between the pieces to guarantee land, people, and blessing. If the gifts and calling are irrevocable, then the Church hasn’t replaced Israel, and promises don’t expire when politics get messy.

We also take on charged labels and moral questions. Is it antisemitic to critique policy? No—governments must be accountable. Is it antisemitic to apply unique standards to the only Jewish state or to smear Jews as a people? Yes. We talk scale, history, and the spiritual backdrop scripture names—a hostility to the people through whom Messiah came and will return. Along the way, we clarify what we mean by Christian nationalism and Christian Zionism, rooting both in Jesus’ teaching on civic duty and the Bible’s steady affection for Zion.

By the end, we land on action and hope: pray for the peace of Jerusalem, stand against antisemitism wherever it appears, speak with integrity about war and conscience, and support tangible needs as those who’ve received spiritual riches through the Jewish people. If you’re ready to trade noise for nuance and anchor your view in scripture, this conversation was made for you.

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