In this raw and unprecedented episode of Lights On, Carl Lentz sits down for an exclusive interview with his wife Laura – the woman who chose to stay when 99.9% of people said she should leave. For the first time, Laura opens up about the moment that made her stay, the day-by-day survival strategy that saved their marriage, and the brutal honesty required to rebuild after betrayal. They discuss everything from losing their entire friend group to why Laura went to therapy for Carl's mistakes, and the uncomfortable truths about what really happens in intimate moments after infidelity. From the shock of discovering a hidden life to Christmas alone while Carl was in rehab, this conversation reveals how two people rebuilt from ground zero. Whether you're navigating betrayal, wondering if trust can be restored, or simply curious about what real redemption looks like, this interview offers hope without sugarcoating the cost. Warning: This episode contains discussions about infidelity, trauma, and the kind of honest conversations most couples never have.

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CHAPTERS:

00:00 - "Why Didn't You Walk Out On Me?" The Opening Question

02:02 - The Phone Call That Changed Everything: Carl's Childhood Trauma Revealed

05:04 - "One Day at a Time" - The Marriage Contract That Saved Us

09:01 - When Laura Reads the DMs (And Why Carl Has to Leave)

10:47 - The Brad Pitt Test: Would She Have Left?

11:53 - God Behind Bars Partnership

12:30 - Losing Our Church: The Friends Who Never Called

15:31 - How Laura Relearned Her Intuition After Betrayal

17:01 - The Beach Conversation That Sent Carl to Rehab

18:49 - Christmas Alone: When Healing Meant Separation

20:55 - "Laura Must Have Known" - Addressing the Cheap Shots

24:41 - Why "Biblical" Advice Almost Destroyed Us

30:13 - Plana.org: Help for the Unexpected

30:54 - The Friends We Lost (And Why It Feels Good Now)

38:42 - "Do You Worry I'll Cheat Again?" The Hard Question

42:11 - What She Really Thinks During Romantic Moments

45:23 - Euphoric Recall: The Addiction Truth Nobody Talks About

48:27 - Why Brutal Honesty Builds More Trust Than Perfect Answers

50:22 - The People Who Judge the Loudest Hide the Most

53:29 - Open Marriages, Honesty & Why Context Matters

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In this deeply personal episode of Lights On, a father sits down with his wife Laura and daughter to reveal the unconventional family culture that has their kids choosing couch time over parties. They dive into the "corny" traditions that actually work, why confrontation leads to clarity, and how making awkward topics conversational changed everything. From discussing porn at the dinner table to the "no snitch" rule they completely reject, this family shares raw insights on raising emotionally intelligent kids who actually want to be home. Whether you're struggling to connect with your teenagers or wondering why family dinners matter, this conversation offers practical wisdom mixed with laugh-out-loud moments and surprising tears. Warning: This episode might challenge everything you think you know about "appropriate" family conversations.

00:00 - Family Culture & Why Our Kids Choose Us Over Parties (Intro)

00:53 - Summer Jobs, Stripper Poles & Love Island Drama

04:30 - The Father's Day Dinner That Changed Everything

11:10 - Why "Corny" Family Traditions Actually Work

20:47 - How Close Families Can Be Annoying (The Warning)

21:47 - God Behind Bars Partnership

22:23 - Confrontation Creates Clarity: Our Family Rules

31:02 - The Power of Family Dinners (Harvard Study)

40:30 - Breaking the "No Snitch" Culture

44:41 - Plana.org: Help for the Unexpected

45:23 - Why We Talk About P*rn at the Dinner Table

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In this episode, Carl and Laura Lentz reveal what the growth phase of healing actually looks like after 4.5 years of intensive therapy work. Discover why growth includes failure, conflict, and moments of joy - and why most people quit before reaching this transformative stage. Carl shares his experience completing a rigorous 4.5-year therapy program and why consistency over convenience became the key to lasting change. Laura breaks down how to navigate conflict as a sign of growth rather than regression, and why you need trusted voices (not each other) to tell you when it's time to move forward. They expose the hard truth about dragging reluctant spouses into healing work and reveal why 60-75% of couples who commit to intentional repair work stay together. This isn't about perfection - it's about building a life where even your failures become fuel for something better.

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