Episodios

  • How Could "Depopulation" Ever Save Us?

    How Could "Depopulation" Ever Save Us?
    Feb 11 2025
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    If you need to skip the description of "depopulation" practices they are between 22:04-24:24

    In today's episode we discuss the H5N1 panzootic, and it's devastating impacts on species all across our globe. We begin by discussing what H5N1 is and the latest updates on it's spread. Then we discuss it's impact on farmed and wild non-human animals. We take a critical look at the practice called "depopulation" which is massacre in another name. We discuss our responsibility to the living creatures of this earth, their health and safety, as well as how our inaction around animal safety and factory farming has led to the massive scale of death we are seeing. We end with our thoughts on how to continue to organize and protect each other as air health and safety realists!

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    An image of a lake with moody grey cloudy skies and a flock of geese flying. Their reflection is seen in the lake. The words "How Could ""Depopulation"" Ever Save Us?" can be seen over the image.

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    How is bird flu affecting animal populations?
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  • What are we doing???

    What are we doing???
    Jan 21 2025
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    Timestamp for cw: social media & labor trafficking beginning & end: 49:00-56:00

    In today's episode we discuss the spectrum of impact from systemic genocides, and the difficulties accessing other people & community spaces that go unacknowledged. We discuss vulnerable disabled people begging for scraps while people of privilege buy fancy tech to avoid covid, and what it means to instead orient ourselves toward responsibility for each other's survival.

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    Image of a dance party with rainbow-colored lights. Two people in masks are tabling at the dance event, and one person in the foreground is dancing in a mask.

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    1 h y 15 m
  • Paying to Play

    Paying to Play
    Dec 14 2024
    Show Notes fern (they/them) and Myco (it/its) discuss housing woes, their struggles with unsafe housing and the difficulty with finding new housing to move into. Myco talks about its history of being housing insecure and unhoused, as well as the power dynamic at play where it will likely never have power over its own housing. fern talks about land back and how we can never own stolen land. They end with a wish to lift from the bottom up, and for all housing to be free. Image Description: incoming Transcript: (incoming) Resources: Follow Us: Insta Email us at liberatorynaysayers@proton.me
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    1 h y 4 m
  • The View From Down Here

    The View From Down Here
    Dec 9 2024
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    Myco (it/its) and fern (they/them) discuss the underclasses and how being within them impacts daily decision making and relationships. They discuss the discomfort that comes with acknowledging power imbalances and what it's like to try and break down hierarchies in relationships. They also talk about the need for privileged people to step up to help support folks in the underclasses to keep us alive, instead of us needing to rely on each other for crumbs.

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    A tiny person with white skin, neon yellow hair and a worried face looks up at a giant pair of legs stepping up giant stairs. The background is a misty eerie green, with a bare tree in the distance. The words "the view from down here" pop forward in white from the brown stairs.

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    59 m
  • From One to Many

    From One to Many
    Nov 30 2024
    Show Notes Myco (it/its) and fern (they/them) discuss what it's like to shift expectations of their relationships in relation to plurality. They discuss the process and importance of, and difficulties with unmasking their plurality. They talk about the importance of valuing all the unique relationship dynamics that they see playing out. They also discuss the similarities in public attitude between polyamory and plurality, both 'othered' and treated as if they are odd instead of just regular variations of human experience. Image Description: The words "From one to many" pop forward from a creamy white background. The word "one" is colored half in green, half in peach. The word "many" is a mosaic of colors. Between the words sit two grey boxes with colored circles lined up on either side of the boxes. Squiggly colorful lines connect the circles to each other. The top grey box has only two colored circles, and two squiggly lines between them. The bottom has seven colored circles, and many lines. Transcript: transcription doc Fern (they/them): Hello! Myco (it/its): We did not discuss who was leading this today! We did not discuss it in advance. F: I will, is that ok? M: Yeah. F: I felt bad for a second because I feel like I always do. So that’s why I was like oh shit I don’t wanna take over. M: Honestly? F: You like when I take over? M: You’re a really good leader. F: Whee thank you! Alright. Hello and welcome to another episode of Liberatory Naysayers. Yay. I am fern. They/them please. M: Myco. It/its. F: Today we are talking about… M: More plural stuff? F: More plural stuff! M: Specifically a thing that should be very obvious but has not been and occurred to us over the past week. And has been potentially revolutionary. F: Yeah! We had an epiphany recently that made us go wait! We’ve been doing this wrong the whole time! M: I mean I wouldn’t say wrong. F: I wouldn’t either. M: I would just say as hard as possible? F: God, hard mode, yes. No for real. It’s very true. M: Yeah. To everybody’s credit we’ve been working really hard together. F: Yes, we have. M: It’s just been harder than needed I think. F: We’ll get into why it was harder too cuz we have some reasons for that. But it’s ok. Myco, would you like to tell our dear listeners why you chose the title you did for this episode? M: Oh yeah. Unless you follow the instagram, you probably don’t know that I like to draw the episode graphics. It’s fun. I enjoy it. In the process of making it I was thinking about this idea of moving from one relationship between fern and Myco. Toward acknowledging that there are many relationships between everybody. Those dynamics are different often. Even when they mirror each other in interesting ways between different people. There’s a lot going on. Sorry. Rambly. F: No, that answers it. From one to many. That’s what that means. You were thinking of things as one to one, and then we were like wait it’s not truly one to one. M: It’s not and a lot of times thinking it is, or expecting it to be, is leading to conflict. F: Mmm yes.One of the reasons we sort of fell into that pattern of interacting with each other is because of the need to mask. Right? Or maybe you would call it the habit of masking. M: Oh 100% yeah. F: Sometimes we don’t need to, but we just are doing it anyway. How is that, do you think, impacted things for you personally? Masking vs unmasking? M: It makes everything really hard. Life is harder. Having to mask. Having to have spent years doing that. We have faced pretty intensive violence for any expression of madness or even just human emotion in our life. So I think it impacts the mask. Doesn’t it? The more violence that creates it, the harder it is to let go of. It’s like hammered in there you know? F: Yes. M: It is as natural as breathing. F: Do you find that even in your own private space with trusted people that it’s hard to unmask. M: Oh yeah! Before we knew you could be trusted with that we would try to tell you about ourselves and panic! Have these huge panic attacks. It was intense. Then you would say over and over and over again you would be safe with it. You would be like.. I don’t know. Anything I could possibly want you to say right you would say it. F: That’s good. M: So then it just became… then it was the habit of it. We’ve established the trust of it, it’s just reflex almost. F: That makes sense yep. M: How do you feel about masking for yourself? F: That question is a little different for me than for you I think. Because for one you’ve realized for a bigger part of your life that you’re plural. M: Yes. F: It’s a more recent realization for me. It explains a lot of things. Hindsight is 20/20 for me looking back. M: You’ve been thinking about it for a long time now. F...
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  • Thank the Wall

    Thank the Wall
    Nov 19 2024
    Show Notes fern (they/them) and Myco (it/its) discuss the impacts of life-long medical neglect and abuse at the hands of health "care" professionals. Myco reads a piece it recently wrote and chats with fern about going through the motions while feeling lost and how to cope in what feels like an impossible situation. Image Description: An exhausted, non-descript human with pale skin and neon yellow hair leans against a red wall. Behind it are the words "Thank the wall" which pop forward from the blue and green background. Transcript: Transcript doc Fern (they/them): Hello! Welcome to another episode of Liberatory Naysayers. I’m fern. I use they/them pronouns. Myco (it/its): I’m Myco, I use it/its pronouns. F: Myco, what are we talking about today? M: I wanted to talk about something I wrote over the weekend. Was it over the weekend? I’m losing track of time. Is that correct? F: Yeah, I think so. Saturday. We didn’t need that much detail. Anyway! M: Very important! F: This is how we function actually. M: It was at 2:05pm on a rainy saturday in June… I mean… wait… F: Shut up (playfully) That is how we talk a lot though. I’m like no remember it was tuesday because we did the dadada and we saw this thing. Then you’re like ooooooh yeah. Anyway. Something you’ve written recently, but something that we talk about pretty much all the time. Something on our minds all the time. Lots of chronic illness, medical neglect themes today. What’s your writing titled? M: I called it Liminal Dreams, but when I was thinking about what to call this episode I came up with Thank the Wall. Which is a reference to a line in the piece too, and I like that! F: Do you wanna read it? M: Yeah. — I feel liminal On a razor edge Hazy Floating in and out Of consciousness Aliveness Fading Discussing mcdonalds orders Body still needs fuel after all The mundanity of it Driving to see a possible home Maybe Probably not gonna happen if we are honest Struggling to remain upright Struggling to remain conscious My burning spine Fantasizing about Tearing it out Throwing it out the car window “Do you want a drink?” Yeah “I’ll split it with you” Thank you It burns, it burns, it burns My hips twisting My tailbone aching The weight of my head immense My eyes refusing to stay open Slipping away Then Walking around a home Holding her hand Trying to listen To think To take in information To look for red flags To entertain Black out again and again Try not to be noticed “Myco? Myco? Myco?” Sorry, hold on a second Heart jumping out of my throat The effort of staying upright At the top of a flight of stairs Overwhelming Thank the wall for Holding me Up Gods I’m too sick to be looking for housing I’m too sick to be upright I’m too sick to be here But here I am Holding her hand As she climbs a tree As my partner gathers important information Don’t pass out Keep her from breaking her neck Then Back to the car Fading In Out In again “Myco pick a video!” I can’t remember anything What video? “Snake” says my partner Snake I echo back My tongue too big Too clumsy My voice tiny and slurred Far away I slide in and out of here and now In agony fever dreams Defending my affection for Chip the Stoma “You don’t understand! I love him!” I say to blank faced strangers at a bar As if I could ever be found at a bar Remembering the dad I can’t remember Who gave me back after a cancer diagnosis People don’t usually give away their kids Just because they become sick In the clear moments I wonder Sometimes If she notices If she sees past my bullshit pretending to be more than I am Wonder if she worries You do for sure I’m worried if I’m being honest Scared Every time my hearing cuts out Every time my vision goes black Every time my skin flushes red Every time I start panting and sweating like I ran miles Every time my speech slurs And I lose thoughts And I can’t remember Every time my spine burns Every time my bones refuse to stay in place Every time my herniating brain burns Every time my eyes throb and quake Every time my arms and legs shake uncontrollably Every time I lose feeling in my face Every time my neck thumps with my pulse Every time my joints feel squeezed tight Every time my heart slows and skips beats Every time I fall to the bed To a wall To the floor I am afraid I am afraid I’m afraid it will not end That this agony will be with me Forever Gods I long for it to end To close my eyes To slip away For the quiet For the rest For the peace I grieve sometimes My waning abilities The time and spoons The agony robs from me I grieve knowing you need more More hands More help More people As I fade away You said I was lost to you I feel lost Half dead Sometimes Sometimes If I could have one wish It would be abundance For you For us all Or At least Some rest —- F: Thank you....
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    54 m
  • Losing Ability

    Losing Ability
    Nov 12 2024
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    Myco (it/its) and fern (they/them) talk about the shifting baseline of Myco's body and spoons day to day, the grief and challenges of change, and how the impact in ability can be met with love, support and understanding. They tie together the purpose of this podcast to the themes they discuses; loving, supporting and accommodating each others changing needs is how we build stronger communities that don't leave others behind. They end with an invitation to think about and discuss the needs you the listener have that are seen as too much, are overlooked or left behind.

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    The image reads "losing ability" in white against a blue background and a graph. A pink line wiggles from the corner of the graph, up and down in peaks and valleys, until it plummets down past the lines of the graph. Above the curves of the line sit the word "losing" in various heights. Below the line sits the word "Ability". The words are both in white, except for the "y" in "ability" which follows the pink line down, through the "y" and ending with a downward arrow.

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    50 m
  • Chronic Condition Calculus

    Chronic Condition Calculus
    Nov 8 2024
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    fern (they/them) and Myco (it/its) discuss what its like being invisibly, chronically ill caregivers! They talk about spoon theory, their differing experiences of being disabled, the difficulties of balancing caring for ourselves and others, and ways we care for each other when our bodies are struggling.

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    The words "Chronic Condition Calculus" pop forward from a green chalkboard looking background. To the left are a neat row of spoons starting with one spoon and ending with four. Next to the spoons are equal signs with calculus equations drawn chaotically across the image. In the lower right corner is a drawing of a confused meme person. They have a thought bubble with question marks over their head, obscuring some of the math equations.

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    54 m