What happens when podcast hosts interview podcast hosts? Chaos—in the best possible way.

In this episode we sit down with Travis Brungardt and Brandon Jones from the Building Consensus Podcast for a wide-open conversation about building science, high-performance homes, construction tech, and the real challenges builders face today.

From jobsite scheduling headaches and software frustrations to building better houses and surviving remodels of your own home, nothing is off limits. Expect builder banter, industry insights, and a few laughs along the way.

What do you get when you mix zero software, a yellow legal pad, 1,000 pushups a day, and a guy who’s been building monster custom homes since the 1970s?

You get Paul Taylor.

In this episode, we finally nail down the hardest man in construction to schedule (seriously—it only took a year). Paul breaks down how he builds some of the largest, cleanest custom homes in California without superintendents, office staff, or apps—just experience, discipline, and an almost unreasonable level of standards.

We talk:

• Why Paul refuses to use construction software (and somehow still beats everyone’s schedules)

• How growing up poor, starting in 6th grade, and learning every trade shaped his no-BS approach

• Running multi-million-dollar projects solo while serving 30 years in the military

• The infamous mutiny that made him fire everyone and rebuild his company leaner than ever

• Why crooked lights, sloppy work, and “good enough” don’t exist in his world

• And yes… the This or That questions get absolutely unhinged

If you want motivation, perspective, and a reminder that mastery still matters—this one hits hard.

Huge thanks to our sponsors for supporting the show:

• Andersen Windows – when precision and performance actually matter

• Ressio Project Management Software – for builders who do like staying organized

• Purezawood Flooring – craftsmanship that holds up to Paul Taylor standards

Hit play. Just don’t expect excuses, shortcuts, or sleep.

The Levelheads look back on 2025—job changes, market surprises, permit nightmares, exploding porta-potties, and why building custom homes is anything but efficient. We also give away an RR Buildings tool belt, roast ourselves, and accidentally drop one of the best construction stories of all time. Consider this your warning.