In many of our systems of governance, whether in health, justice, or the economy, the desire of organisations, movements, or individuals to do good can often have unintended, even catastrophic, consequences. David is joined by Sarah Goble, who brought her baby son to the hospital, only to nearly lose both her children when her son’s illness was misdiagnosed, and the parents found themselves accused of abuse. In this second part of the interview, David and Sarah discuss the consequences of this ordeal and the lessons that can be learned from it.

In many of our systems of governance, whether in health, justice, or the economy, the desire by the organisations, movements, or individuals to do good can often have unintentional, even catastrophic consequences. David is joined by Sarah Goble, who brought her baby son to the hospital, only to nearly lose both her children when her son’s illness was misdiagnosed and the parents found themselves accused of abuse. In this first part, Sarah details the harrowing story from medical emergency to legal battle.

Our brain’s capacity for storing memories is the foundation for our learning and relationships, as well as witness testimonies. However, scientific research increasingly suggests just how unreliable this mental archive actually is. Join David and groundbreaking psychologist Prof. Elizabeth Loftus as they detail her decades of work on the science of memory manipulation. Prof. Loftus explains the misinformation effect—how post-event information can distort recall—and shares her experience providing expert testimony in high-profile trials. They discuss how her research directly impacts modern interrogation techniques, offers critical lessons on separating verifiable fact from implanted suggestion, and forces us to rethink how we handle memory in all areas of life.