Learnings from space for the workplace, with NASA 4-D

This week, the Space Connect Podcast features a returning guest: Paul Hawkins, the founder of Crazy Might Work.

His company is a leadership and innovation academy that brings lessons from frontiers like space to the workplace.

More simply put, Hawkins and his team work with leaders and their teams to create and mobilise high-performing teams.

Their re-imagination of NASA’s successful 4-D program won the Australian Space Awards 2025 for Workplace Initiative of the Year.

Host Adam Thorn and Hawkins discuss this and what exactly makes great leadership and high-performing teams.