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Due to your many requests—we are dropping a Latter Day Struggles series in “audiobook” format. You can enjoy the entire narrative arc in a single, uninterrupted format! Enjoy the experience as things 'click' into place as you take in this 'audiobook'! Please let us know what is happening within you as you transcend and include Mormonism one series at a time!

As a bonus drop, we have prepared one of our favorite series titled, "Community Healing: How our Greatest Wounds & our Greatest Healing Happens through Human Relationship" for you! Enjoy this deep dive.

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome and Reset

10:32 Faith Crisis Isolation

16:00 Shunning and Going Underground

27:53 Finding Support Groups

36:38 Quotes on Group Healing

48:56 Trust the Healing Process

56:17 Roadmap Out of Chaos

01:01:19 Witnessed Healing in Relationship

01:13:25 Beyond All In or Out

01:21:22 Curriculum True Self to Rebirth

01:27:37 Relationships and Patriarchy Work

01:35:08 Hope Through Community

01:42:07 Introducing the True Self

01:59:37 Gnostics and Inner Authority

02:16:18 Love Over Fear

02:26:10 Sharing True Self Statements

02:45:22 Grief and Identity Shift

02:56:20 Writing the True Self Statement

03:03:02 Love Based Spiritual Growth

03:16:25 A Healthier Faith Relationship

03:23:23 Men Patriarchy and Identity

03:31:52 Reclaiming the Core Self

03:39:51 True Self Statement Practice

03:44:26 Welcome to Eden Poem

03:54:16 Community Stories Begin

04:11:37 Community and Belonging

04:46:17 Seeing Pain Not Ideas

04:53:18 Final Invitation to Heal

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In this follow up episode on recent LDS news that women are now allowed to serve in Sunday School presidencies, Val & Nathan pivot to the peculiar part of the announcement prohibiting no "mixed-gender" presidencies and share the outcome of their exploration of this odd move.

Upon deeper reflection, the move seems less about worries about slippery slopes towards sexual iniquity and possibly more about preserving another kind of slippery slope--the one that disrupts what some feel is the "natural order of the universe". If a female formally presides over a male in one realm of the LDS church, what could this possibly lead to?

Listen in as we propose that moves of this nature is proof that ultimately an all male priesthood must be surrendered...even if excruciatingly slowly...if the LDS church is going to survive in the long run.

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome and Context

02:09 Reading the New Policy

02:46 First Reactions and Jokes

04:54 Why Mixed Gender Feels Weird

5:51 Relief Society President and Bishop — Mixed Gender Already Exists

08:21 Loyalist Perspective Brainstorm

09:32 Women Under Men in Leadership

11:09 Nathan's BYU Co-Mission Leader Experience

13:33 Men Under Women and Shame

15:53 Two Existential Questions the Church Dodged

17:14 Presiding and Priesthood Questions

19:13 Can Women Practice Revelation Without Male Approval?

22:49 Priesthood as Human Construct — "All or None of Us Have It"

25:12 Keys vs Duties Explained

28:12 Baptism Witnesses — A Case Study in Power Shifts

29:47 Power and Control Creep

32:39 Family Proclamation Implications

35:23 Women Leading Faith Journeys at Home

37:38 Joseph Smith Gave Women Blessings — Then They Were Taken Back

39:25 What Reforms Might Come Next

44:21 Closing Thoughts and Farewell

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Series Title: Straight Talk on Patriarchy and Harm [Part II of II]

In this episode Val & Nathan lay out a several reasons why they feel that the LDS church is not able to address the strong correlation between its patriarchal structure, s*xual abuse & s*xual abuse under-reporting. The foundation of this struggle is a refusal to question the divinity of patriarchy...which leads to the patterns outlined in this episode.

Please note--episodes of this nature are intended to be "hard on system, soft on people." Val & Nathan maintain that no person is actively trying to harm others--but harm is the inevitable outcome of structures that will not confront their own shadows.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:16 Recap of Previous Episode

01:00 Nathan's Faith Journey and Institutional Critique

02:43 The Harm of Institutional Patriarchy

05:11 Centralized Authority and Its Consequences

07:38 Theological Justifications and Their Flaws

11:45 The "Ship vs. People" Metaphor

15:20 Patriarchy in the Book of Jacob

17:38 Patterns of Abuse and Institutional Response

21:15 Science vs. Religion: Reconciling Evidence

25:30 Handling Abuse Internally

30:41 Legal Counsel and Institutional Protection

35:32 Credibility Issues and Reporting Abuse

38:45 Women Reporting to Women: Limitations

41:24 Conclusion and Call for Change

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