In this episode of Keeping Abreast, Dr. Jenn Simmons sits down with cancer researcher and author Mark Lintern for a provocative conversation that challenges one of the most deeply rooted assumptions in modern oncology: that cancer is primarily a genetic disease.

Drawing from his book The Cancer Resolution?, Mark introduces his Cell Suppression Theory, a framework that argues cancer may be driven less by random mutation and more by chronic inflammation, metabolic dysfunction, immune suppression, and a possible infectious component involving fungal pathogens.

Together, Dr. Jenn and Mark explore why the current model of cancer leaves so many unanswered questions, how the metabolic theory shifted the conversation, and why terrain, mitochondria, immune health, toxins, stress, and chronic inflammation may all matter more than most patients have been told.

If you are looking for a conversation that challenges conventional thinking and opens the door to a broader view of breast cancer and whole-body health, this episode is a must-listen.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why the dominant genetic model of cancer does not fully explain the disease
• What the Warburg effect is and why it matters in cancer research
• How the metabolic theory of cancer changed the conversation around treatment
• How chronic inflammation, toxins, immune dysfunction, and tissue damage may create the conditions for cancer
• Why mitochondria play a much bigger role in cancer than most people realize
• How fungal pathogens fit into cancer development
• Why microbiome health, detoxification, and stress regulation matter in prevention and healing
• What makes breast tissue uniquely vulnerable in this conversation around estrogen, immunity, and inflammation

Episode Timeline:

00:00 Introduction to a Different Conversation About Cancer
04:45 Mark Lintern’s Journey Into Cancer Research
07:34 Why the Somatic Mutation Theory Falls Short
10:41 The Metabolic Theory and the Warburg Effect
13:40 The Possible Role of Pathogens in Cancer
16:32 The Hallmarks That Define Cancer
19:19 Cancer Diagnosis Versus Active Disease
22:08 The Cell Suppression Theory Explained
27:06 Practical Solutions for Prevention and Healing
30:02 Foundations of a More Holistic Cancer Approach
33:49 Cortisol, Stress, and the Healing Environment
41:49 Why Antifungal Treatments Are So Challenging
43:45 Can We Identify the Pathogens Inside Tumors?
46:30 Why the System Resists New Cancer Models
51:04 Breast Cancer, Estrogen, and Tissue Vulnerability
55:21 Estrogen, Inflammation, and Fungal Overgrowth
58:55 Final Thoughts on Prevention and Whole-Body Health

Learn more about Mark Lintern and get his book here: https://www.cel

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PART TWO - In this episode of Keeping Abreast, Dr. Jenn Simmons continues her conversation with Dr. Nasha Winters, a renowned integrative oncology expert and metabolic health pioneer, for a deeper look at what cancer care is missing and what true individualized healing actually requires.

Together, Dr. Jenn and Dr. Nasha challenge the protocol-driven mindset that dominates both conventional and alternative medicine, making the case that cancer treatment must begin with the foundations: metabolic health, nervous system regulation, immune resilience, and an honest understanding of why a particular body became vulnerable in the first place.

They explore why so many practitioners feel unequipped to care for cancer patients, how fear and institutional limitations keep better tools out of reach, and why therapies like mistletoe continue to be dismissed in the United States despite decades of research and widespread use around the world.

If you want an empowering perspective on integrative cancer care, this episode is a must-listen.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why foundations matter more than any single “magic bullet” therapy
• How Dr. Nasha thinks about mistletoe as terrain support, not a standalone cure
• Why mistletoe is so widely used in Europe and still resisted in the United States
• How integrative therapies can work with conventional cancer treatment, not against it
• Why individual biochemistry matters when deciding whether a treatment will actually work
• How fear, burnout, and cognitive dissonance affect doctors as much as patients
• What it looks like to build a true “board of directors” for healing
• Why safer, more thoughtful screening and treatment options are urgently needed

Episode Timeline:

02:02 What pets can teach us about healing and foundational health
05:57 Dr. Nasha on being dismissed by conventional medicine
12:01 Why doctors stay stuck in broken systems of care
16:01 How The Metabolic Approach to Cancer became a roadmap for healing
20:13 Why foundations matter more than any magic bullet
25:32 The problem with protocol culture in cancer care
27:29 Mistletoe, terrain, and the future of integrative oncology
35:54 Why effective therapies are still dismissed in mainstream medicine
40:09 Why patients need a collaborative team approach
43:56 Safer screening, better tools, and moving beyond outdated technology
48:27 Why we need to treat the person, not just the diagnosis
51:34 Where to find Dr. Nasha and what’s next

Guest: Nasha Winters

• Where to find her: https://drnasha.com/

To talk to a member of Dr. Jenn's team and learn more about working privately with Dr. Jenn visit: https://calendly.com/stephanie-1031/clarity-call

To get your copy of Dr. Jenn's book, The Smart Woman's Guide to Breast Cancer, visit: https://tinyurl.com/SmartWomansBreastCancerGuide

To purchase the auria breast cancer screening test go here https://auria.care/ and use the code DRJENN20 for 20% Off.

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PART ONE - In this episode of Keeping Abreast, Dr. Jenn Simmons sits down with Dr. Nasha Winters, a renowned integrative oncology expert and metabolic health pioneer, for a deeply personal and eye-opening conversation about cancer, resilience, and why so many people are getting diagnosed younger than ever before.

Dr. Nasha shares the story of her own terminal ovarian cancer diagnosis at age 19 and how being forced outside the conventional system led her to ask a different question, not just how to treat cancer, but why the body became vulnerable to it in the first place. What followed became the foundation of her life’s work.

Together, Dr. Jenn and Dr. Nasha explore the root causes driving modern cancer risk, from mitochondrial dysfunction and immune suppression to environmental toxins, vitamin D deficiency, chronic stress, trauma, and the cumulative burden of modern life.

This is part-one of a two-part conversation. If you have ever wondered why cancer is rising, why it is showing up earlier, or why true healing has to go beyond standard treatment, this episode is a must-listen.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why cancer is becoming more common in younger people
• The difference between chronological age and biological age
• How mitochondrial dysfunction contributes to cancer and accelerated aging
• Why immune suppression and vitamin D deficiency matter more than most people realize
• The role of environmental exposures, plastics, hormones, and EMFs in modern disease
• How trauma, chronic stress, and nervous system dysregulation affect healing
• Why looking inward may be one of the most important steps after a diagnosis
• What it means when someone says, “I did everything right and still got cancer”
• Why prevention has to start long before disease appears

Episode Timeline:

01:04 Meet Dr. Nasha Winters
05:15 Dr. Nasha’s cancer diagnosis at 19 and how it changed everything
11:22 Cancer, aging, and the mitochondria connection
18:22 Environmental overload and the rise of early-onset disease
23:28 Immune suppression, vitamin D, and cancer risk
26:03 The growing cancer burden and why prevention matters
30:49 Trauma, stress, and the psychoneuroimmunology of healing
34:40 Can someone heal if they are not ready to look inward?
38:26 Readiness, resistance, and the patient’s role in healing
40:36 Alcohol, lifestyle patterns, and difficult truths in cancer care
45:40 “I did everything right” — what that really means
48:47 Toxic exposures, hidden patterns, and what we normalize
49:25 Stress, uncertainty, and building the tools to adapt
51:21 Pets, pesticides, and what our environment is telling us
52:35 Why you won’t want to miss Part Two

Guest: Nasha Winters

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To talk to a member of Dr. Jenn's team and learn more about working privately with Dr. Jenn visit: https://calendly.com/stephanie-1031/clarity-call

To get your copy of Dr. Jenn's book, The Smart Woman's Guide to Breast Cancer, visit: https://tinyurl.com/SmartWomansBreastCancerGuide

To purchase the auria breast cancer screening test go here https://auria.care/ and use the code DRJENN20 for 20% Off.

Connect with Dr. Jenn:
Website: https://www.jennsimmonsmd.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrJennSimmons
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjennsimmons/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dr.jennsimmons