In this episode we meet Hang Zhao, chemist, turned accountant turned Leadership Coach.

Hang Zhao is a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) by International Coaching Federation (ICF). She works with senior leaders and high-performance emerging leaders all over the world. She excels in helping clients with strategic thinking, enhancing decision-making capabilities, overcoming communication challenges, and fostering a collaborative team culture. With a unique combination of coaching expertise, corporate and entrepreneurial acumen, and cultural sensitivity, Hang empowers her clients to transform insightful "aha" moments into concrete actions that amplify their overall impact.

Hang holds a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry and a Master of Science in Accounting. She worked in the accounting and consulting fields in North America for over a decade before transitioning to coaching.

Outside of work, she is an enthusiastic runner, a passionate content creator, and a world traveler.

Hang shares her story that takes her from China to the US, where she met her husband, and then onto Canada. There have been big decisions, adventures and even some digital nomading along the way.

Hang shares the Chinese saying, 'Bravery sometimes comes from ignorance' and how this has been shown through some of their expat moves. Of course there is courage, and perhaps a little ignorance helps us along - particular the first time round - but I also heard a lot of thoughtful research had been undertaken so that the fluidity of their expat moves was based upon well research options. A desire to explore, a desire for change, different life and professional experiences, cultural expectations - they all contributed to the expat path - and what a path it has been!

You can find out more about and contact Hang here:

Website: https://www.hzhaocoaching.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hangzhao/

In this episode I was delighted to talk to Charles Crowl about his experience of becoming one part of an international career couple and about how he and his husband navigated challenging circumstances to pursue their relationships and their careers. It is an inspiring story and Charles is able to share many tips and techniques about being an ICC.

Charles is a passionate people developer and seasoned business leader with extensive experience in managing teams, stakeholders, and supply chains across Europe, the USA, and the Asia Pacific region during his 13-year tenure at the L'Oréal Group. In 2022, amidst the rapid evolution of workplace culture and leadership demands, Charles began leveraging his wealth of experience to assist organizations in retaining and nurturing their top talent. His signature program is the FMCG Career Accelerator, where he partners with top FMCG talent to navigate their unique career journey.

On the personal side, Charles is Australian and met his husband, Gregory from Mauritius, seven years ago on a dance floor in Shanghai. Since then, in no particular order, they have navigated several international relocations, political protests, a pandemic, two redundancies, multiple career pivots, launching a business, buying a house, getting married, and adopting a cat!

You can find out more about Charles from the following links:

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-crowl-thrivex-coaching-consulting/

Website: www.thrivex-coaching.com

Email: contact@thrivex-coaching.com

Podcast host, Kate Galloway is joined by her husband to talk about their personal and professional experiences as expats.

In this episode we discuss our second move, which was from Scotland to Dubai, UAE.

We share that the move happened due to industry uncertainty and the need for job security. We talk about how our networks have been important for our international moves. We talk about uncertainty that surrounded us and uncertainty that we created.