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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

By: From Tenacious Change featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
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  • "Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
    From Tenacious Change, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
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  • A Getting to 3rd Space Redux: Barriers, Bears, & Gummy Bears (S1E3)

    A Getting to 3rd Space Redux: Barriers, Bears, & Gummy Bears (S1E3)
    May 27 2024

    Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom!

    If you are in the United States, it is a holiday (Memorial Day). Tom’s out chasing a golf ball around a local golf course and Lamar is out taking more beautiful photos. At least, that’s what we hope we are doing today. In our absence, we are offering a redux of one of our earliest podcasts from October 21, 2023. We titled it Barriers, Bears, and Gummy Bears.

    We won’t say it is a “Best of” Getting to Third Space because we were still learning a lot about doing a podcast. However, the topic is important because it focuses on the barriers that often prevent us from having difficult but important conversations with family, friends, and peers.The barriers we consider are internal barriers - those attitudes, ideas, expectations, even beliefs we hold - that may hold us back from engaging in civil conversation with people whose ideas, opinions, experiences, and lives are different from our own. Then we offer four guidelines for overcoming or “checking” those barriers to make it easier to engage others.

    Finally, we talk about bears. :-)

    We hope you enjoy hearing it again (or for the first time). And we hope you are doing something relaxing and fun today as well…whether it is a holiday or not where you live. We’ll be back with a new podcast on June 10th. See you then!

    Learn more:

    Links to items related to the show, for example:

    • Fat Bear Week: https://www.nps.gov/katm/learn/fat-bear-week-2023.htm

    • A Bear Walks into a Store: https://youtu.be/_oqSTpFStvs?si=TvHTv50BWXrqyraO

    Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space

    Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b

    Meet Lamar & Tom

    Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

    To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Credits:

    • Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus

    • Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI

    • Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    • Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom is a Klaus Haus Creation for Tenacious Change, TM and Copyright 2024 by Tenacious Change LLC, All Rights Reserved

    • For permissions or additional Information: info@tenaciouschange.us or tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

    --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gettingto3rdspace/message
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    42 mins
  • S2E10 - A Table Talk about Gun Regulation

    S2E10 - A Table Talk about Gun Regulation
    May 13 2024
    About Today’s Episode - A Table Talk on Gun Regulation Today’s show features a Table Talk about gun regulation. You’ll remember that Table Talk is a new, occasional feature that we’ll include in Getting to Third Space. It was inspired by the kitchen table in the farm homes we grew up in where it was a central gathering place. Not only did we eat there, but we played games, entertained guests, and had conversations. Sometimes the conversations were light and fun. Sometimes they were serious conversations about differing ideas and perspectives on important issues. The subjects being tackled in our Table Talks have no simple solution so don’t expect us to resolve anything. However, they allow us to both experience and model many of the concepts and tools we’ve been discussing in this podcast. Before issues can be resolved, we have to be able to talk about them in a civil conversation, especially when we disagree. We hope our Table Talks will inspire and guide you to have your own Table Talks on this and other subjects. In our first Table Talk we discussed self-driving vehicles. In this one we move into a more controversial top with two important questions: 1) Should gun ownership be regulated? And, if so, 2) how should gun ownership be regulated? Learn more: Links to items related to the show: Historical Background on Second Amendment (Constitution Annotated): https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE_00013262/ Firearm suicide trends (Centers for Disease Control & Prevention): https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/firearm-suicide-trends.html Parents of Oxford school shooter sentences to 10-15 years each (Washington Post): https://wapo.st/3JuJmVi Pros and cons of gun control in the United States (The Reflector): https://reflector.uindy.edu/2022/12/14/pros-and-cons-of-gun-control-in-the-united-states/ The Columbine-Killers Fan Club (The Atlantic): https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/columbine-school-shooting-mythology/678119/ Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b Meet Lamar & Tom Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom is a Klaus Haus Creation for Tenacious Change, TM and Copyright 2024 by Tenacious Change LLC, All Rights Reserved For permissions or additional Information: info@tenaciouschange.us or tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gettingto3rdspace/message
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    48 mins
  • S2E9 A Table Talk about Self-Driving Vehicles

    S2E9 A Table Talk about Self-Driving Vehicles
    Apr 29 2024
    Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! In this episode we introduce a new feature for the podcast: Table Talk. In the farm homes where we both grew up, the kitchen table was a central gathering place. Not only did we eat there, but we played games, entertained guests, and had conversations. Sometimes the conversations were light and fun. Sometimes they were serious conversations about differing ideas and perspectives on important issues. In this Table Talk, we will pose a question and then discuss it together, much in the same way we would as if we were sitting around one of our kitchen tables having a conversation. The subjects being tackled in our Table Talks have no simple solution so don’t expect us to resolve anything. However, they allow us to both experience and model many of the concepts and tools we’ve been discussing in this podcast. Before issues can be resolved, we have to be able to talk about them in a civil conversation, especially when we disagree. We hope our Table Talks will inspire and guide you to have your own Table Talks on this and other subjects. . Today we begin with the topic of self-driving vehicles and this question: Do we really need self-driving vehicles? Learn more: Links to items related to the show, for example: Self-driving cars (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-driving_car 10 Cars that are almost self-driving: https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/advice/cars-that-are-almost-self-driving Six level of vehicle autonomy explained: https://www.synopsys.com/automotive/autonomous-driving-levels.html (Synopsis): Autonomous vehicles factsheet (University of Michigan): https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/mobility/autonomous-vehicles-factsheet Self-driving vehicles: An ethical overview (ResearchGate): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353850286_Self-Driving_Vehicles-an_Ethical_Overview 5 moral dilemmas that self-driving cars face today (Forbes): https://www.forbes.com/sites/naveenjoshi/2022/08/05/5-moral-dilemmas-that-self-driving-cars-face-today/?sh=d70981a630d8 Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b Meet Lamar & Tom Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom is a Klaus Haus Creation for Tenacious Change, TM and Copyright 2024 by Tenacious Change LLC, All Rights Reserved For permissions or additional Information: info@tenaciouschange.us or tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gettingto3rdspace/message
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