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Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

Getting Real with Bossy: For Women Who Own Business

De: Kelly Metras & Kelly Bush
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The Real Raw and Honest podcast about small business ownership hosted by Kelly Bush + Kelly Metras, co-owners of BOSSY ROC, a support group for business owners. With our experience, nine businesses in over 25 years, we continue to bear it all and share what we wish we had known. We move past the must-be-nices and start getting real. Come along as we interview other business owners and get the true story. New episodes every 2nd and 4th Monday of the month. www.BossyRoc.comCopyright 2022 All rights reserved. Biografías y Memorias Ciencias Sociales Economía Gestión y Liderazgo Liderazgo
Episodios
  • Teach What You Know: The Business of Online Courses
    Mar 16 2026

    What does it really take to turn your expertise into an online course people actually want to buy? In this episode, hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras sit down with Jasmine Jonte, founder and CEO of Cre8tion, to unpack the art and strategy behind transforming knowledge into impactful — and profitable — educational programs.

    The conversation kicks off with an honest look at the realities of entrepreneurship. From running businesses to hosting a podcast to managing everyday life, Kelly and Kelly share the very real juggling act many founders know all too well. That candid moment sets the stage for a deeper conversation about building sustainable businesses and finding smart ways to scale your expertise.

    Jasmine brings her extensive background in education and program design to the table, offering practical insights into what makes an online course truly effective. She explains why simply knowing something isn’t enough — successful educators must also understand how to teach it in a way that connects with learners.

    Together, the trio explores the key ingredients of a compelling online program, including identifying your ideal audience, crafting an irresistible offer, and designing learning experiences that genuinely resonate. Jasmine also shares how emerging AI tools can simplify and accelerate course creation, while emphasizing that meaningful learning still relies on authentic human connection.

    Whether you're an entrepreneur, coach, creative, or industry expert, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you package your knowledge into programs that educate, engage, and generate revenue.

    Key Takeaways
    1. Understanding your audience’s needs, goals, and challenges is the foundation of any successful educational program.
    2. Before building a course, start with a clear, compelling offer that solves a specific problem for your audience.
    3. Your unique experiences and perspective are valuable assets — authenticity helps your content stand out in a crowded marketplace.
    4. Great courses combine smart marketing with engaging learning design to create real transformation for participants.
    5. AI can help streamline course development, but human connection and thoughtful teaching remain essential for impactful learning.
    6. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own expertise and consider how they might turn their knowledge into structured, scalable programs.

    Links Mentioned
    1. creation.co
    2. bossyroc.com

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  • The Entrepreneurial Brain: Are You Wired to Build… or Burning Out?
    Mar 2 2026
    On this episode of Getting Real with Bossy, Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras get honest about something most business owners don’t talk about enough: the mental wiring of entrepreneurs.What really makes someone built for business ownership?Is it confidence? Fearlessness? Hustle?Or is it anxiety, control issues, stubbornness… and a little bit of trauma-fueled independence?This conversation dives deep into the real traits behind entrepreneurship- the messy, complicated, powerful ones- and how they can either build your business… or burn you out.From Burnout to Mental Health ResetAs winter drags on and the exhaustion creeps in, the Kellys talk about:Seasonal burnout in small businessThe mental load of leadershipWhy taking time off feels impossible (and necessary)The guilt of closing your business for your own well-beingHow entrepreneurs protect everyone else’s mental health… except their ownThey explore the hard truth: if you don’t step away intentionally, burnout will make the decision for you.The 10 Traits of the Entrepreneurial BrainNot the Instagram version. The real version.Each trait has an “ugly side." And a superpower.1. Anxiety or Risk Management: Overthinking becomes scenario planning and worst-case thinking becomes preparation.2. Hyper-Responsibility or Radical Ownership: Everything feels like your fault… But that mindset builds solutions instead of blame.3. Control Issues or High Standards: Micromanaging can lead to burnout, but attention to detail protects your brand.4. Insecurity (Yes, Imposter Syndrome Is Real) or Continuous Improvement: The doubt that keeps you up at night is often the fuel for evolution and innovation.5. Stubbornness or Resilience: There’s a thin line between vision and delusion. Most successful founders have stood on it.6. Creative Restlessness or Innovation: You can’t walk into a business without redesigning it in your head. That’s not distraction, it’s possibility.7. High Tolerance for Uncertainty or Decisive Action: You launch before it’s perfect. You often say yes, and figure it out later.8. Chaos Comfort or Adaptability: You function in unpredictability. While others freeze, you pivot.9. Trauma-Driven Independence or Self-Sufficiency: “No one’s coming to save you,” so you built it yourself.10. Relentless Ambition or Legacy: It’s never just about income. It’s about impact, growth, and building something that matters.Burnout: Strength Without StructureBurnout isn’t weakness. It’s what happens when your best traits run unsupervised.When anxiety becomes constant stress.When ownership becomes self-blame.When ambition refuses to rest.When you normalize exhaustion as dedication.The key question:Are you building a business that protects your wiring — or exploits it?Some Hard Truths DiscussedStable people don’t voluntarily sign up for unpredictable income.Rest looks suspicious in hustle culture.Being physically present 90 hours a week isn’t leadership.You can’t lead well when you’re in fight-or-flight mode.Growth isn’t always the answer. Sometimes stability is.January Reflection Check-InRemember what you “burned” in January? Are you still leaving it behind? Sometimes letting go isn’t a one-time ritual but a monthly practice.If This Resonated…If you’ve ever felt:Too anxiousToo intenseToo ambitiousToo much for a “normal” jobMaybe you’re not too much. Maybe you’re wired to build.The Kellys are developing a workbook to help you unpack your entrepreneurial traits and create structure around them so stay tuned.Connect with BossyFollow along, share your thoughts, or apply to be on the show:Instagram: @bossyrocEmail: bossyroc@gmail.comWebsite: bossyroc.comBe bold. Be brave. Be the boss.Mentioned in this episode:Connections with Evan Dawson Connections with Evan Dawson - Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts ConnectionsJoe Bean RoastersUse promo code Lunchador for 15% off your order! https://shop.joebeanroasters.comLunchador Podcast NetworkCheck out all of the shows on the Lunchador Network at lunchador.org!
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  • How Art, Identity, and Community Power Stronger Businesses
    Feb 16 2026

    A Conversation with Photographer & Author Adam Eaton

    Art doesn’t live in a vacuum. It shapes identity, strengthens communities, and fuels entrepreneurship. In this episode, we explore the powerful intersection of creativity and leadership with Adam Eaton, Rochester-based photographer, artist, and author of the book Black Is Beautiful.

    Adam’s work captures more than images; it tells stories that invite connection, reflection, and belonging. Through photography and community engagement, he demonstrates how art can be a catalyst for personal growth and social change, particularly within Rochester’s creative landscape.

    At a time when artists often struggle for recognition and resources, this conversation highlights why investing in the arts isn’t optional- it’s essential to a thriving community.

    Art as Connection, Healing, and Advocacy

    Throughout the episode, Adam shares how his creative journey has deepened his connection to Rochester and the people who call it home. His book, Black Is Beautiful, celebrates identity while creating space for dialogue, representation, and pride.

    Art, as Adam explains, has the unique ability to:

    1. Foster emotional healing
    2. Strengthen community bonds
    3. Elevate voices that deserve to be seen and heard

    His story is a reminder that creativity isn’t just expression, it’s advocacy.

    Entrepreneurship, Vulnerability, and the Power of Community

    Hosts Kelly Bush and Kelly Metras expand the conversation to include the realities of entrepreneurship in 2026. From managing teams to navigating personal challenges- including recovery from surgery- they speak openly about what it takes to keep a business moving forward while honoring personal well-being.

    Key insights include:

    1. Why no business owner succeeds alone
    2. How vulnerability builds trust and resilience
    3. The importance of leaning on your team during hard seasons

    This candid perspective reframes leadership as a shared experience, not a solo act.

    Links & Resources
    1. Adam Eaton: adameaton.com
    2. Black Is Beautiful Book: adameaton.com/black-is-beautiful
    3. Instagram: @adameatonart
    4. Geva Theatre: gevatheatre.org
    5. Bossy: bossyroc@gmail.com | bossyroc.com
    6. City of Rochester: cityofrochester.gov

    Organizations Mentioned

    Flower City Arts, Black Is Beautiful, Caribago Design, Geva Theatre, City of Rochester, Coco Ray, David, Erika J., Deja Colon

    Listen, Share, and Take Action
    1. Listen to the full episode to hear Adam Eaton’s story in his own words.
    2. Share this episode with an artist, entrepreneur, or community leader who believes in creativity as a force for good.
    3. Support local arts by exploring Adam Eaton’s work and investing in Rochester’s creative organizations.
    4. Subscribe, rate, and review the podcast to help amplify voices shaping stronger communities.

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