Getting Braver Instead of "Better"

Lisa Callahan and Kari Morin are back! Here to open Season Four of The Things We Know by retiring the familiar pressure to be better and asking a different, more honest question. What if this year is about being braver instead. In a world that feels heavy and uncertain, they explore what courage actually looks like in midlife and in these times. Not perfection or optimization, but emotional honesty, softened strength, clear boundaries, and the willingness to be seen as we are. Through personal stories about caregiving, grief, identity shifts, friendships, parenting adult children, and the courage required to stay present rather than numb, they reflect on the small, everyday acts of bravery that help women move forward without abandoning themselves.

Because bravery is easier when it is practiced in community, Lisa and Kari also share what they witnessed at their Brave and Boundless retreat last Fall, and why they are so excited about their next gathering, Unstoppable: A Heroine's Journey, taking place February 27 through March 1, 2026 in Palm Springs. This retreat offers women a chance to explore their stories, reclaim their courage, and step into the year ahead with support, connection, and intention. There's still time to register, and spaces are filling, but the invitation is simple: come be held in community, explore your next chapter with support, and step into the kind of courage this new season is all about.

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