E191: Natalie Hall - Thriving with Secondary/Metastatic Breast Cancer and Fireflies Fitness

Trigger Warning: this episode discusses living with secondary/metastatic breast cancer, acute illness, death and dying, telling children about cancer and uncertainty.

Episode 191: Part of the Living With and Beyond Cancer Series(Part62)

Description: In this powerful episode, Naman Julka-Anderson and Jo McNamara sit down with Natalie Hall.

Natalie founded Fireflies Fitness whilst in remission from breast cancer. It is a community interest company supporting people with fitness after they have received a cancer diagnosis. She now lives with metastatic cancer that spread to her bones and liver and she is a big advocate for the vital benefits of staying active throughout and beyond treatment.

This episode is a deep dive into Natalie’s cancer journey, living with secondary/metastatic breast cancer, parenting and Fireflies Fitness.

CPD Reflection Points:

1. Look up the signs and symptoms of secondary breast cancer.
2. Consider the potential consequences of avoiding discussions about cancer prognosis with children.
3. Design a safe and effective exercise regime for someone like Natalie that is living with metastatic/secondary cancer. Consider using the PRosPer resources to help you.

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Links from the Episode:

• Royal Marsden Charity
• Breast Cancer Now - secondary(metastatic) breast cancer
• BRCA2
• Circulating tumour DNA & clinical trial
• FAME Trial
• Structured Exercise after Adjuvant Chemotherapy for Colon Cancer
• E13 Christen Williams - BRCA Mutation

Research links from the Episode:

• Fasting-mimicking diet plus chemotherapy in breast cancer treatment
• Circulating tumour DNA assays in focus: highlights from ASCO 2025 for clinicians

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Credits: Music and jingle credits: Dr. Ben Potts and Adam Cooke.