In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman sits down with gender equality leader Michelle Redfern to explore what it really means for organisations to choose the "right side of history" when it comes to DEI. They unpack why compliance and quotas aren't enough on their own, how global politics influences corporate strategy, and why intersectionality must sit at the centre of any genuine gender equity effort.

Michelle shares real-world examples from working with executives, boards and multinationals, highlighting the difference between performative commitments and deep cultural evolution. Bree and Michelle discuss visibility, governance, resourcing and the crucial role DEI practitioners play in translating intention into action.

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In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman explores how we respond when harmful behaviours show up in our workplaces. From microaggressions and exclusionary comments to ongoing discrimination, Bree unpacks the difference between calling in, calling out, and calling on, and how each approach can support learning without compromising safety or accountability.

Drawing on research and real-life moments, Bree explains why shame shuts down growth, why empathy matters even when people "should know better," and how our own power and safety influence how we choose to respond. They share a practical example from community sport that highlights how a grounded, compassionate intervention can shift behaviour far more effectively than blame.

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In this episode of DEI Will Not DIE, Dr Bree Gorman reflects on how transferable skills can shape a meaningful career in DEI. From their beginnings as an analytical chemist to becoming a DEI strategist, Bree shares how critical thinking, stakeholder engagement, and bridging divides all play a role in creating more inclusive workplaces.

They also open up about navigating ADHD, career transitions, and the impact of leadership decisions that focus on outcomes rather than hours. This honest conversation reminds us that the path to DEI isn't linear and that inclusion starts when we remove barriers so everyone can thrive.

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