💼 The Leadership Lesson Every Property Manager Needs | Episode 18 | Bryan Jenkins

In Episode 18 of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Philip Burton sit down with Bryan Jenkins — military veteran, real estate investor, and President of Genstone Property Management — for a conversation packed with leadership gems, property management truths, and investment strategies that actually make sense in today’s market.

Bryan walks us through his journey from military service to property management, sharing the lessons, discipline, and mindset shifts that shaped how he leads people, handles HOAs, communicates with clients, and builds teams that actually solve problems instead of just pointing them out. The guys dive into the human side of business (yes, even in property management), why communication beats chaos every time, and how leaders can scale by building problem-solvers — not bottlenecks.

You’ll also hear Bryan break down modern real estate investing with straight-shooting clarity, from DSCR loans to Airbnb and corporate housing, plus how Genstone is building a “sticky ecosystem” with smart tech, better systems, and proactive management.

If you’re in property management, real estate investing, Airbnb, SFR/BTR, or you just love hearing how military leadership translates into business… this one’s for you.

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💼 From Subway to SFR Success | Jeffrey Tesch on Discipline, Cash Flow & Leadership

In this episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Erik Burton sit down with Jeffrey Tesch, CEO of RCN Capital, to talk about his journey from running Subway franchises to becoming one of the most respected voices in private lending and real estate investing.

Jeff shares lessons from decades in the industry—on building relationships, maintaining discipline in any market, and spotting opportunities for cash flow even when the economy shifts. From his early days learning operations through sandwiches to leading a national lending firm, Jeff proves that mindset and consistency are the foundation of success.

💡 Highlights from this episode:

- How running a Subway franchise taught Jeff the fundamentals of business discipline
- The power of personal connections in real estate and leadership
- How to leverage equity and financing options for smarter investing
- Why positive cash flow deals still exist—even with high interest rates
- Building a winning culture through servant leadership and humility

What today’s market means for individual investors and long-term growth

This episode is packed with insights for real estate professionals, investors, and entrepreneurs looking to scale their mindset—and their portfolio.

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🚀 Phil Yi: SFR, Entrepreneurship & How RVP Changes Resident Benefits

In this episode of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Phil Yi—a former Navy submariner, McKinsey alum, and now CEO of Starship Residential and Chief Commercial Officer at Utility Valet.

Phil shares his inspiring journey from military service to the startup and real estate world, unpacking the timeless lessons of entrepreneurship, the role of trust in business relationships, and why cash flow and NOI are non-negotiables for scaling success.

💡 Highlights from this episode:

How Phil’s Navy background shaped his leadership and business strategy
The emotional resilience needed to thrive in entrepreneurship and startups
The balance between competition vs. collaboration in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) and BTR (Build-to-Rent) industries
Why sales skills and consumer experience drive long-term success
The launch of Utility Valet’s Resident Value Package (RVP)—a new approach to utility services and resident benefits designed to boost NOI and improve property cash flow

This conversation blends practical business insights with personal stories, offering valuable takeaways for anyone in real estate, property management, or entrepreneurship.

🎧 Don’t miss this deep dive into scaling trust, cash flow, and innovative solutions like RVP in today’s evolving market.


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