In Episode 24 (Part 2) of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit back down with Daniel French, CEO of Northpoint, for a sharp, wide-ranging conversation about real estate, grit, leadership, and the future of single-family rentals.

Daniel breaks down why SFR still feels like the “Wild West,” why Americans are wired to believe in home ownership, and why that mindset might need a reset. The discussion moves from growth markets like Austin, Phoenix, and Dallas to the bigger picture: long-term investing, institutional ownership, housing affordability, and what actually builds real wealth.

They also get into branding evolution, political ambition, team dynamics, scaling property management, and the importance of community impact in real estate. Daniel shares hard-earned lessons from building credibility with investors, navigating risk, and adapting to market cycles — without losing integrity.

This episode is about thinking long-term.
About grit over hype.
About building something that actually lasts.

If you’re in real estate, entrepreneurship, or leadership — this one hits.

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In this episode of Between Two Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Daniel French, CEO of Northpoint, for a raw, real conversation about family, failure, faith, and finding your true lane.

Daniel opens up about winning elected office at 28, getting absolutely crushed in a bigger political race soon after — and how that loss pulled him out of public service and straight into the private sector, where he knew he belonged. From there, the conversation goes way beyond titles and transactions, diving into fatherhood, gratitude, integrity, mentorship, and the pressure that comes with leadership.

This episode breaks down how loss sharpens perspective, why honoring your parents’ sacrifices matters, and why real wealth — in business and in life — is built on values, patience, and long-term thinking. Daniel also reflects on early real estate mistakes, resilience through adversity, and why integrity is the real competitive edge.

If you care about leadership with substance and building wealth the right way, this one hits home.

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In Episode 22 of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Kait Feeney, Co-Founder and CEO of DenZen, for a raw and honest conversation about entrepreneurship, risk, and building a business that actually solves a real problem.

Kait shares her journey from working as a labor and employment attorney—helping companies lay people off—to questioning whether that was the legacy she wanted to leave behind. After watching friends across multiple industries lose their jobs and struggle to cover rent or mortgages, Kait saw a deeper issue: most people are one income disruption away from financial crisis.

That realization sparked the creation of DenZen, a platform designed to create a financial safety net for renters while protecting property partners from loss. In this episode, Kait breaks down how DenZen works, why portfolio-level risk modeling matters, and how removing individual credit barriers creates a system that can actually scale.
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