Brett and Harry sit down for a candid reflection on the Meat Mafia journey—from the first blog posts and anonymous Twitter threads to recording with dream guests and taking the show on the road. They unpack the pivotal moments that built their momentum, the creative risks that paid off, and how their mission has evolved over the years. From gritty early recordings to in-person conversations with world-class guests, this is a behind-the-scenes look at building something from scratch, staying adaptable, and pursuing a vision with relentless energy.

What we cover:
- How the Meat Mafia podcast started from anonymous writing on Twitter

- The transition from written content to launching a podcast

- Early struggles, imposter syndrome, and finding their cadence as co-hosts

- Creative risks that helped them secure dream guests

- Building momentum through consistency rather than perfection

Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(04:00) Momentum from writing online and moving to Austin
(09:00) Publishing the healing story and early Twitter growth
(14:00) The shift from writing to launching the podcast
(19:00) Diversifying content and building authority
(24:00) Early guest outreach strategies that worked
(29:00) The jump from virtual to in-person recordings
(34:00) Lessons from the multi-state podcast road trip
(44:00) How the show evolved with changing interests
(54:00) Key takeaways for building something from scratch

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Robby Sansom is the co-founder and CEO of Force of Nature, a regenerative meat company on a mission to revolutionize the global food system. With a background in sustainability and ethical sourcing, Robby has positioned Force of Nature at the forefront of the regenerative agriculture movement—pushing for higher standards, better transparency, and real impact across the meat industry.

Robby Sansom returns to break down how the company has evolved since his last appearance—and why they just relaunched chicken with the most rigorous standards in the industry. From the failures of mainstream food labeling to the hidden cost of doing things the right way, Robby unpacks the complexity of regenerative agriculture, the dirty truth behind chicken production, and how Force of Nature is building trust through transparency, not trends.

What we cover:
- The evolution of Force of Nature since 2023
- The failure of claims like “organic” and “pasture-raised”
- Off-farm environmental impact most brands ignore
- The reality of pricing premium meat in a commodified market
- Force of Nature’s long-term play to change the food system

Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(02:30) Building regenerative supply chains at scale
(05:45) Rise of consumer skepticism and demand for transparency
(10:00) The hidden cost of cheap food and pricing tension
(16:00) Why they paused and relaunched chicken
(22:00) Off-farm environmental impact of poultry feed
(28:00) Their new protocol: no Cornish Cross, no confinement
(34:00) Why “free to range” replaces pasture-raised
(46:30) Nuance vs. claims in a commodified market
(53:00) Creating a new standard beyond certifications

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Check out Noble Origins- 100% grass-fed beef protein with added collagen, colostrum and organs: we created a clean and simple protein powder with all of the nutrient-dense parts of the cow included. It's great for a post-workout shake to build muscle or for a low calorie treat to burn body fat or for hormonal regulation because the added nutrients from the collagen, colostrum, and organ complex. Use code MEATMAFIA for 15% OFF your order!

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Harry Gray shares the full arc of his personal journey with faith—from a decade of spiritual drift to a renewed relationship with Jesus. He opens up about the pivotal conversations, internal battles, and spiritual disciplines that reshaped his identity and purpose. For men curious about what it means to follow Jesus in today’s world, Harry offers a practical, honest roadmap grounded in real experience. This episode isn’t about religion—it’s about transformation, leadership, and living with intentional faith.

What we cover:
- Harry’s slow but powerful faith transformation after moving to Austin
- The role of mentorship and discipleship in spiritual growth
- Identity, purpose, and leading as a man of faith
- The practical tools and resources that shaped his walk with Christ

Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(01:45) Launching “The First Appointment”
(03:10) Natasha asks about his relationship with Jesus
(06:00) Drifting and feeling purposeless in his 20s
(11:30) Redefining risk and building faith through action
(16:00) First visit to Thrive Church
(17:45) Discipleship and baptism at age 30
(22:10) Leading other men in faith
(32:15) Giving up vices through spiritual growth
(43:00) Core spiritual disciplines that shaped him

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Check out Noble Origins- 100% grass-fed beef protein with added collagen, colostrum and organs: we created a clean and simple protein powder with all of the nutrient-dense parts of the cow included. It's great for a post-workout shake to build muscle or for a low calorie treat to burn body fat or for hormonal regulation because the added nutrients from the collagen, colostrum, and organ complex. Use code MEATMAFIA for 15% OFF your order!

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