Wil welcomes back his first-ever repeat guest, Sarah Dylan Jensen (aka the Market Maven), the manager of the Snohomish Farmers Market and longtime farmers market leader across the region. What starts as a fun check-in (including a quick appreciation moment for Trent and the Red Trux production magic) turns into a timely conversation about community, safety, and food access—and what it means to feel “at home-ish” when the world feels anything but stable.

Sarah shares why authenticity matters—from the ethics of the fashion industry she once worked in, to how the farmers market chooses local artists and higher-quality, responsibly made merch that actually aligns with “support local.” From there, the episode gets real about the emotional whiplash of current events, the pressure to keep creating and leading while everything feels intense, and the challenge of speaking up when your “filter” can’t be fully off.

The heart of the conversation centers on food as a human right and the ripple effects of shrinking support systems. Sarah breaks down what’s happening with SNAP match funding at markets (dropping from $40 to $25 to $10), why that hurts both families and farmers, and how misinformation about assistance programs misses what she sees firsthand: hard working people, early mornings, and communities held together by relationships.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About

• Why farmers markets are more than “cute local shopping”—they’re community infrastructure
• The ethics gap in fashion vs. values-driven local work
• How the market approaches merch responsibly (local art, better sourcing, aligned values)
• SNAP match funding cuts and what that means on the ground
• The difference between “stealing jobs” rhetoric and the reality of labor in agriculture
• How to stay engaged without burning out: capacity, roles, and small actions that matter
• Curiosity as a leadership skill: listening to understand, not just to respond
• Building relationships across differences (and not writing people off too fast)
• Walk-up song moment: Coldplay’s “A Sky Full of Stars” + a Van Gogh-inspired reminder that stars shine brightest in the dark

Closing Vibe

This episode is a reminder that when the world feels loud, uncertain, and exhausting, community is still something you can build on purpose—one market day, one conversation, one act of curiosity at a time.

Wil sits down with Adrianne Wagner, Executive Director/CEO of Leadership Snohomish County (LSC), executive coach, and community builder, for a real conversation about what leadership looks like when life is busy, the world feels heavy, and people are craving connection.

Adrianne shares her path from Flint, Michigan to Snohomish County, her long career as a healthcare executive, and the moment she "hit the wall" after the pandemic and major company changes. That burnout became a pivot point leading her back to school, into leadership coaching, and deeper into the work of developing leaders across every level (not just people with titles).

Together, Wil and Adrianne unpack the difference between leadership vs. authority, why "aggressively passive" culture can make feedback harder than it needs to be, and how toxic leadership creates ripple effects for the people who have to survive it. They also dig into what it means to level up instead of competing, and why leaders have a responsibility to create real space for others to grow.

The episode also spotlights Step Up, LSC's signature conference returning in person this year and how the theme - Step Up for what matters to you , is about moving beyond awareness into action, collaboration, and community.

In This Episode, You will Hear About

• Adrianne's leadership journey: Flint -> Snohomish County -> healthcare exec -> coach
• Burnout, recovery, and why she pivoted into coaching
• Leadership vs. authority: why titles don't automatically make leaders
• Toxic leadership, trust, and why we don't talk about the survivors enough
• Feedback culture: 360-style listening, patterns, and "no hangry leaders"
• Calling in well: using time off to refill your cup, not just recover from being sick
• Uncompete thinking: scarcity vs. abundance, envy vs. leveling up
• Community projects: asking orgs what they actually need ( cans with no can openers)
• Kids as teachers: bias, empathy, and small actions that matter
• Music as meaning: Jimmy Eat World, Hamilton, the Grey Album, and Wil's 2026 alarm song

Event + Links Mentioned

• Leadership Snohomish County: https://leadershipsc.org
• Step Up Conference: April 24 (in-person)
• Applications/nomination window opens in February (Signature Program begins in September)

Closing Vibe

This episode is equal parts leadership workshop and real-life check-in: a reminder that community is built on small, consistent choices and that the best leaders don't just win; they help other people win too.

Wil welcomes brothers Terry Hollimon and Torry Hollimon for a wide-ranging, funny, and deeply reflective conversation about what it means to show up, build trust, and create spaces where people belong.

The brothers share their origin story (Arkansas → Canada → Texas → Washington), how constant change taught them to read the room and find common ground, and why belonging isn’t about taking over a space—it’s about connecting inside it.

Torry opens up about becoming a single dad with full custody, how that led him into early childhood education, and why being present in schools—especially in communities where people of color are underrepresented—creates powerful ripple effects for kids and families.

Terry reflects on the rights and opportunities people take for granted today, the responsibility to honor the sacrifices of past generations, and the importance of using your gifts—whether you’re built like a “power truck” or a “Maserati.”

The episode also revisits Snohomish’s 2020 turning point, the difficult conversations that followed, and how dialogue can move a community from polarizing moments toward something stronger and more unified.

In This Episode, You’ll Hear About

• Why “showing up” is the foundation of belonging
• The Hollimon family journey across regions and cultures
• How Terry’s football path changed—and how his parents’ foresight made a new path possible
• Disarming a room: reading the environment, adapting without losing yourself
• Finding connection through common ground (sports, service, shared values)
• Why representation in schools matters—especially for kids watching from the sidelines
• The importance of voting and honoring the sacrifices behind today’s rights
• Snohomish in 2020: what happened, how it felt, and what it sparked afterward
• Walk-up songs, hype music, and the energy you bring into the moment

Call to Action

Wil challenges listeners to help the show reach all 50 states by the end of 2026—and to keep spreading the stories instead of “hoarding the information.”

Closing Vibe

This one’s equal parts laughter and life lessons—about legacy, community, and the truth that you never really know who you’re influencing… until someone tells you.