Have you ever found yourself walking through a door you never expected—but somehow knew God opened for you? On this week’s episode, Camille Fronk Olson shares her own personal experience with the subheading of her new book, “But If Not”—this is her story of “Finding God in Unmet Expectations and Unwanted Detours.”

1:45- Our Stories in Hindsight
7:36- Why Now?
10:31- Prosperity Gospel Fallacy
20:03- Leaving to God the Management of Blessings
26:07- Physical Bodies
34:16- Mandatory Vs. Voluntary Obedience
39:08- Because of Jesus Christ
42:15- What Does It Mean to Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

“If going down that detour that He has sent us down leads us to trust more in Him, it is a glorious life.”

Links:
But If Not- https://www.deseretbook.com/product/PR00001364.html

Elder Vargas’s general conference talk- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/04/34vargas?lang=eng

Morgan Scalley is recognized as one of the top defensive coordinators in college football, known for preparing his players to be ready for whatever comes their way on the field. But for Coach Scalley, the most meaningful preparation happens off the field. In this week’s episode, he shares how living the gospel of Jesus Christ has taught him to face life with faith and why the joy found in the Savior’s Atonement far surpasses any victory on the scoreboard.

2:26- Football Vs. Spreading the Gospel
5:26- Moment of Loudness
7:23- Elder Neal A. Maxwell
11:00- Family
12:00- Seeking Christ Not Perfection
15:03- Learning From a Very Public Mistake
25:54- Keeping Covenants in Focus
30:40- Leaders
34:32- U-Turn
39:26- Raising Teenagers
43:18- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

“If the only skill sets we teach are how to become a better football player, we’re failing these young men.”

From “The Miracle” to “Because,” Shawna Edwards has written songs that help children, youth, and adults feel the doctrine of Christ. But behind her music is a story of perseverance, opposition, and following inspiration. In this episode, Shawna shares lessons learned about faith, family, and creativity—and why she believes it’s never too late to make a difference.

2:25- Unheralded Work
6:09- Songs 11-Year-Old Boys Want to Sing
11:36- A Supportive Spouse
13:35- It’s Not Too Late
17:08- He Has Spread the Music
22:50- What Makes a Great Song?
24:58- The Doctrine With a Melody
27:32- Opposition
32:48- Inspiration or Imposter Syndrome?
35:48- Miracles and “The Miracle”
43:27- A New Generation of Hymns
45:20- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

“Satan would love every good thing you set out to do to not happen.”