Lex Empress (LinkTree)vocalist, systems thinker and the founder of Soulsong came by the podcast. We dove deep into what singing is, what it means to be in a commercial world as artist. Performance and presence, the tension between them and how they scaffold one another. We spoke of what it is to be in contact with what is and the transformative power of devotion to the present. We spoke of truth and its ever-changing, contextual quality. The courage to let be alive what is and to move towards it. This is a conversation that touches mostly on fame, performance, artistry through song but it is about all of it. This is a conversation about wisdom, facilitation and what it takes to follow the aliveness that is at the core of the shift we are in. Enjoy!

Marina Mussapi (LI) at the Moleskin Foundation came by the podcast and we spoke of creativity as a vehicle for transformation. How can we support and invest in the arts without corrupting their spirit? What does it look like to invest contextually in local contexts to empower creators? What does it look like to decanter the heroic role of the investor and focus on creating conditions for movement? We speak of this throughout the work Marina is doing with the Creative Pioneers Fund among other things. We also speak of the centrality of questions and inquiry and right towards the Marina brings the liberating word of tenderness into the conversation. This is a wonderful conversation that relate to investing regeneratively in regenerative projects and a different way of moving in the world. Enjoy.

Ebru Kaya (⁠LI⁠) and André Stürmer (⁠LI⁠) founders of both ⁠RIA⁠ and ⁠Atreyu ⁠came by the podcast for a deepdive into regenerative investing. Not just investing in regenerative companies but what it means to invest regeneratively. We speak of profit, the position, role and stance of the investor, the experiences Ebru and André have made in their long experience as well as their learning edge. We speak of how everyone is an investor and the relationship between a company and it’s field or ecology - and why it makes sense to focus both on the health of a company and it’s surroundings. This is a wonderful conversation that really highlights the difference between impact and regenerative investing. Enjoy!