Join author Ryan Gutierrez as he sits down with Thomas Umstattd Jr., for an insightful conversation about storytelling, publishing trends, and literary traditions. In this episode, we explore: The fascinating parallels between Solomon Kane and modern heroic charactersHow biblical archetypes influence fantasy and western storytellingThe historical foundations of King Arthur legends and their cultural impactStrategies for finding your target audience as an authorThe importance of moral clarity in storytelling Key takeaway: “Having the courage to say ‘I’m not for everyone, but I am for this group of people’ and making something they absolutely love—if you have that creative courage, commercial success is a lot easier to find.” Whether you’re a writer looking to improve your marketing strategy, a reader interested in literary traditions, or simply love great storytelling, this conversation offers something for everyone! Follow Ryan Gutierrez here. YouTube Version In this episode of The Big Draw, Ryan sits down with Thomas Umstattd Jr. of the Novel Marketing podcast for a sprawling, thoughtful conversation. They move from Robert E. Howard’s pulp heroes to King Arthur, from westerns to dystopias, from bedtime stories to box office strategy, and from Rome’s fall to Washington stepping down from power. What starts as a chat about Solomon Kane and a new Arthurian comic grows into a wide-ranging exploration of archetypes, morality, and what our heroes say about us. Key takeaways Archetypal characters like Conan, Solomon Kane, Arthur, and King David keep resurfacing because they tap into deep, shared ideas about courage, justice, and power.Westerns and dystopias are two ends of a moral spectrum about government: can power serve the good, or is it inherently corrupt?Moral clarity in fiction is not childish. It is often more resonant and rewatchable than endlessly “gray” characters and settings.The most commercially successful stories are rarely “for everyone.” They are aimed fiercely at a specific audience who then drag everyone else to them.King Arthur, Cincinnatus, Caesar, and Washington are not just history and legend. They function as founding myths that shape how whole nations imagine leadership.Returning to clear archetypes and old heroic patterns is not regression. It can be the most radical and needed move in a disoriented culture. The Longest-Running Book Marketer In Podcasting Meets The Big Draw Ryan: Everybody, it’s me again. It’s Ryan. This episode of The Big Draw is a special one for me. I have the wonderful Thomas Umstattd Jr. on the show. I wanted to make sure I said his last name right. I’m a big fan of this man’s channel. He runs what I believe is the longest-running novel marketing podcast in history, Novel Marketing. I listen to his stuff a lot while I work on my own literary projects, and I think he’s brilliant. He has a great head on his shoulders, and I’m glad to have him on. How are you doing, Thomas? Thomas: I’m doing well. Thank you for having me. Ryan: Absolutely. Do you want to address my audience with anything in particular? Maybe tell them more about yourself before we get into Solomon Kane, which I cannot wait to talk about? Thomas: Sure. I host three podcasts: Novel Marketing, which you mentioned. That one is about getting more readers for your book.The Christian Publishing Show, which is focused on craft and the publishing process.And a brand new YouTube show that is currently on the Novel Marketing YouTube channel called Author Update, which focuses on publishing news, marketing news, and also general news and how it applies to authors. Ryan: It’s excellent. It’s wonderful. We actually started getting into this topic before we hit record, and I stopped us because I wanted to save it for the show. You were talking about Solomon Kane, and I would love to know what your thoughts are about that, because you had kindly compared some of the work I do to Robert E. Howard’s Solomon Kane stories. Conan, Solomon Kane, And The Archetype Of The Hammer Of God Thomas: Yeah. So Conan is of course the more famous of the Robert E. Howard stories. Conan is a figure who stands against civilization. In a typical Conan story, civilization is evil and corrupt. The kings are corrupt. The wizards are corrupt. Conan is not a good man in a moral sense. But he has a code of honor. It’s his code of honor that insulates him from the corruption of the society around him while he is smashing bad guys and killing demons and saving damsels. When Robert E. Howard stopped writing Conan, he shifted mostly to this other character, Solomon Kane. Those stories take place, I think, in the 1600s. Kane is a Puritan. A warrior Puritan. Imagine a violent Presbyterian with a big black Puritan hat who goes around fighting zombies and killing evil. He is a very righteous man. One of the interesting things about the stories is that there is a lot of deus ex machina. He is not ...
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