"They Say / I Say"

The Moves That Matter in Academic Writing
Narrated by: Cyndee Maxwell, Tony Craine
Length: 8 hrs and 28 mins
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Publisher's Summary

"They Say / I Say" identifies the key rhetorical moves in academic writing, showing students how to frame their arguments in the larger context of what others have said and providing templates to help them make those moves. And, because these moves are central across all disciplines, the audiobook includes chapters on writing in the sciences, writing in the social sciences, and - new to this edition - writing about literature.

The best-selling book on academic writing - in use at more than 1,500 schools.

©2014 Gerald Graff (Author), Cathy Birkenstein (Author) (P)2014 Gildan Media LLC

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Incomplete readings, weird explanations

The readings are incomplete and the context makes no sense. It sounds as if it was a conspiracy story. weird. Not a learning tool I would say.

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This book needs a "companion", please.

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I borrowed this book because I needed it for a class at short notice. Many thanks to the authors for having the foresight to make this an audiobook. It was a pleasant surprise. The disappointment crept in when I had a hard time following. This text, in print, has writing prompts which do not translate well in the audio version. A companion PDF of the text would have been awesome. Until then, potential customers should download this audio FILE, which currently has no text companion, their own risks.

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  • 08-01-18

Very upset

Does not match the text. I purchased this on kindle and audible, it's missing the whole "reading" section I wanted it for

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Very helpful for college writing.

This book helped me when I was preparing for my comprehensive exam. It is insightful and would be an asset to any college student who is writing essays.

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Hard to Listen to....

Would you listen to "They Say / I Say" again? Why?

This book was probably better in print, but the framework is a good model for teaching young students how to write more effectively. The audiobook was hard to track and difficult to follow their writing samples and examples.

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Does not sync with the physical book

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I used this book for my free trial and to help me in my English 101 class for college. My only complaint is that when you get to the reading section which is in the third edition not all of those reading were available in this audio version.

Also the chapters don't sync up as well, as this was for a college course we don't necessarily do the book from front to back. We skip around a bit. The chapters didn't match up to what was in the book. Took a minute to find where I needed to be in the audio book.

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Not sure if it is a good audiobook

I was recommended this book to help with writing papers for school. Although I find this book to be good, I think this is better to have a hard copy than in audio format.

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Mechanics and instruction are good

The instruction and writing tools are great. The organization of the readings in the back of the book are not done well so far as, you don’t know how to locate them (I think). I got frustrated With trying to find them and gave up. Also, the audio book shows that is the 2016 MLA update version. This may be the case but it’s not the latest one that is being used in classes at Keuka College. Overall good material and the section that is needed for the mechanics and learning tools is spot on. Had it not been for the inability to locate the readings at the back of book I would have given this 5 stars across the board.

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make sure you get the right addition!

I did not realize this book had more than 1 edition. So I bought the wrong edition here. And had to buy the correct one in hard back. Can I return it?

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Excellent!!!

Read this book, and you will create a mental space between what any author says and what you say; and from there, you will craft your arguments better... much better. It is very easy not to allow the author to present his/her arguments without mentally interrupting the flow of his/her ideas. The discussion on the literature review was my favorite section since I was writing a literature review at the same time. The templates are a plus indeed!!!

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  • CathyArt
  • 04-07-15

essential guide for surviving academic writing

Very clear breakdown of useful strategies for academic writing- highly recommended, just wish I had found it much earlier in my studies!

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  • 02-22-18

So helpful have listened many times

This has proved so helpful, I had to reach foreign language students preparing for university and this was so clear it really helped me focus on key points to teach.

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  • 04-27-19

Useful

Every student should read this book, its probably the most useful study guide that I have read

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