“I’ve been a caterpillar. You know, what do caterpillars do? They collect, they eat, they stock up, they build up until they get a calling that says build yourself a chrysalis. And that [chrysalis], for me, was leaving public service.”

Welcome back to The Speaker Lab podcast! Today’s episode features Marcy Grossman, whose career path took her from criminal psychologist, working in federal prisons, to Canadian ambassador in the United Arab Emirates, and now to the world of professional speaking. Host Grant Baldwin guides us through Marcy Grossman’s candid journey, revealing the authentic highs and lows behind building a business as a speaker.

Less than a year ago, Marcy found herself in what she describes as the “dark valley of despair”—overwhelmed by anxiety, negative self-talk, and the fear that her stories wouldn’t matter. But instead of giving up, Marcy turned to The Speaker Lab podcast and program, discovering a supportive community, actionable frameworks, and the structure she needed to move forward. Grant and Marcy dig deep into what it really takes to pivot into the speaking industry. You’ll hear how Marcy leveraged her hard-earned experience, learned to embrace the nerves and adrenaline of being on stage, and realized the key to success is trusting the process.

Additionally, the episode covers how speaking can fit into a broader consulting or coaching business, the challenges behind the scenes that most speakers face, and practical tips for building momentum, managing self-doubt, and packaging your unique story. If you’re a speaker in the making, this conversation will remind you that setbacks are part of the journey, and that the stage can be a place for anyone willing to put in the work!

You’ll learn:

• About Marcy’s career as a criminal psychologist
• Gaining confidence through repeated experience
• How to cope with self-doubt and feelings of failure
• To reframe setbacks and regain momentum
• Learning and implementing a booking pipeline
• How speaking is largely driven by business process
• Expanding your offerings beyond just speaking
• And much, much more!

“Many of the speakers I have met are people that have messages in their heart, and that’s why they’re unstoppable.”

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“Within an in demand topic, how are you going to differentiate? There are only X number of categories of movies out there, right? And so it’s not like you’re suddenly going to invent a new category of movie, but you do want, within that well trenched category, to be distinct.”

Welcome back to The Speaker Lab podcast! In today’s episode, host Grant Baldwin is joined once again by youth speaker and entrepreneur, Josh Shipp, for a masterclass on how to build a seven-figure speaking business. If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to reach and sustain that elusive seven-figure mark in the speaking industry, this conversation is for you!

Drawing inspiration from his own career and his work as the founder of a successful speakers bureau for the youth and education space, Josh pulls back the curtain on the practical, often overlooked strategies that lead to lasting success. He and Grant dive deep into the six core offerings every speaker should consider—starting with the foundational work of perfecting your speech, and then thoughtfully layering on merchandise, building an engaged online platform, writing a book, developing a course, and scaling through licensing.

You’ll hear candid reflections on why speaking alone can be both lucrative and limiting, the importance of focusing on quality before quantity, and how to know when it’s time to pursue additional streams of revenue. Josh offers clear benchmarks, practical income thresholds, and valuable insights into everything from setting realistic goals, leveraging audience feedback, and understanding the true costs and opportunities of each new offering.

Whether you’re trying to book more gigs, looking to expand with digital products, or simply want to avoid burnout while building a business you love, this episode outlines the unfiltered roadmap to becoming a seven-figure speaker!

You’ll learn:

• Focusing on substance over charisma
• The misconception that income must come from speaking alone
• Avoiding “shiny object syndrome”
• Building offers sequentially versus all at once
• Examples of different revenue pie charts
• Variables that influence your income model
• Why merch should come second in your sequence
• Utilizing other platforms like newsletters, podcasts, etc.
• The role of authoring a book as a speaker
• When to maximize a current offering or make a new one
• And much, much more!

“What I would advocate for, looking back on it with a bit of pattern recognition, is building these [avenues] deliberately step by step. That’s what’s going to help you get to a [seven-figure speaking business].”

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“Once you have your go-to framework, your go-to model, and then as you innovate, few come up with new ideas, and instead of just doing away with the old one, it becomes a tool in your pocket. And you can keep building that toolbox as you go.”

This week, host Grant Baldwin reconnects with his good friend, renowned speaker, author, and content strategist Melanie Deziel. If you've ever struggled to organize your ideas, wanted to stand out in the crowded speaking market, or wondered how successful speakers build frameworks that turn concepts into intellectual property, you're in the right place.

Grant and Melanie explore the crucial role frameworks play in building a memorable and scalable speaking business. Melanie breaks down why frameworks matter, what separates a strong framework from a pile of raw ideas, and how you can start developing your own signature process or model. Using relatable analogies, the discussion centers around how having a clear structure not only makes your message more memorable but also acts as a powerful tool for marketing, referral, and content creation.

Listeners will gain practical strategies with Melanie’s “IRON” method—Information, Relationship, Operation, and Name—for building frameworks step-by-step. She discusses the risks of trying to cram too much into one model, why a unique name or catchy acronym isn’t the first thing you should focus on, and how to make sure your framework truly represents your expertise.

Whether you’re a new speaker refining your message or a seasoned professional reimagining your brand, you’ll find plenty of guidance on how to take your ideas from abstract to impactful!

You’ll learn:

• How frameworks offer structure, scalability, and memorability
• Building intellectual property (IP)
• Overcoming the fear of narrowing your expertise
• The IRON Method: Information, Relationship, Operation, Name
• When to innovate an existing framework vs. introducing a new one
• Leveraging AI for brainstorming, organization, and naming
• And much, much more!

“The real challenge is having so many ideas, but they are not in a usable structure to be able to share those ideas effectively.”

Episode Resources

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