Olympic champion Keely Hodgkinson returns to High Performance to share the honest reality of life after success, the highs of global recognition, the setbacks of injury, and the emotional toll that comes with chasing greatness.

She opens up to Jake and Damian about resetting after disappointment, learning to process frustration without losing focus, and her drive to push the limits as she targets a world record. Keely also reflects on the growing pressure of public expectation, the scrutiny of social media, and the freedom that comes from embracing authenticity over perfection.

This is an unfiltered conversation about growth, self-belief, and staying grounded while pursuing excellence on the world stage

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Philosopher and bestselling author Alain de Botton invites us to completely rethink what success really means. This profound and therapeutic conversation explores how true high performance isn’t about external achievement, but about realising your unique potential and finding peace within yourself.

Alain challenges the obsession with being “special,” explaining why accepting our ordinariness can be the most liberating idea of all. He also discusses how envy can reveal our hidden potential, how we lose touch with our true selves by trying to please others, and why moments of crisis or even pain can be the body’s search for balance.

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The pressure, the noise, the meaning of the occasion, it had all become too much.

Two years later, he returned to the same stadium, the same stage, and this time everything was different. He scored one of the biggest goals of his career, not because his ability had changed, but because his mindset had.

In this episode, I share what I learned from Dan’s transformation and the powerful lesson he now lives by: play the game, not the occasion. Together, we explore:

• Why high-pressure moments can derail even the best performers
• How to “shrink the stage” and focus on what’s in your control
• The science behind reframing nerves as excitement
• What Newcastle United’s evolution teaches us about team mindset
• How to prepare for your own “Wembley moments” with clarity and calm

Here is more information on the studies referenced:

1. What Governs Choking Under Pressure? (Sian L. Beilock & Thomas H. Carr, 2001)
2. When Paying Attention Becomes Counterproductive: Impact of Divided versus Skill-Focused Attention on Novice and Experienced Performance of Sensorimotor Skills (Sian L. Beilock, Wierenga & Carr, 2002)
3. Get Excited: Reappraising Pre-Performance Anxiety as Excitement (Alison Wood Brooks, 2014)
4. A Pre-Performance Routine to Alleviate Choking in “Choking-Susceptible” Athletes (Christopher Mesagno, Daryl Marchant, Tony Morris, 2008)
5. The Effectiveness of Pre-Performance Routines in Sports: A Meta-Analysis (Anton G. O. Rupprecht, Ulrich S. Tran, Peter Gröpel, 2021.)
6. Attentional Focus and Motor Learning: A Review (Gabriele Wulf, 2013)
7. The Performance and Psychological Effects of Goal Setting (process vs outcome) (O. Williamson et al. 2024)

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