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  • Pete and Debbie Ochs, Business Owners, on the Shift in Perspective After Setting a Financial Finish Line (Ep. 184)

    Pete and Debbie Ochs, Business Owners, on the Shift in Perspective After Setting a Financial Finish Line (Ep. 184)
    Mar 30 2026
    Pete and Debbie Ochs, longtime entrepreneurs and leaders in faith-driven business, share how God reshaped their understanding of money, work, and purpose over decades of walking with Him. Pete began his career pursuing success through hard work and financial gain, while Debbie brought a steady foundation of faith and generosity from her upbringing. Through seasons of business growth, financial pressure, and personal conviction, God led them to see that everything they had was not theirs to own, but to steward. That shift transformed how they built companies, gave generously, and ultimately released control. Pete is the founder of Capital III, an investment and operating company focused on building businesses that create economic, social, and spiritual capital, and the founder of Enterprise Stewardship, which helps leaders build high-impact businesses rooted in purpose and long-term flourishing. From creating jobs inside prisons to establishing a stewardship trust for their business, Pete and Debbie’s work now reflects a commitment to building economic, social, and spiritual impact. Along the way, they learned to set a finish line, cap their lifestyle, and follow the Holy Spirit in both planned and spontaneous generosity, deepening their understanding of risk and surrender. Explore how surrendering ownership can reshape your decisions, relationships, and long-term vision for Kingdom impact. Major Topics Include: Stewardship versus ownership in God’s economySurrender as foundation of faithful stewardshipIntegrating faith and business without compartmentalizationCreating economic, social, and spiritual capitalSetting a lifestyle finish line for generosityShifting mindset from accumulation to outward impactListening to the Holy Spirit in everyday generosityPracticing intentional and spontaneous giving rhythmsInvolving family in generosity and stewardship decisionsUsing business as a platform for Kingdom impact QUOTES TO REMEMBER Pete Ochs “Stewardship is not waving the white flag. It’s not giving up. It’s coming to the understanding that the Creator of the universe wants to come alongside you and co-create with you to change the world.”“My 30s were about success, my 40s were about significance, and my 50s were about surrender.”“When we really live as stewards, it’s not 2 million is mine and the rest is God’s. It’s zero-one hundred. It’s all His.”“The question is not a net worth number. The question is a lifestyle number. How much should you be paid to manage what God has entrusted to you?”“You cannot violate God’s principles and expect Him to bless it. When you live according to His principles, He will take care of you.”“Business, I believe, is the most powerful platform to change the world.”“We try to create economic capital, love people relationally, and be ready to share the hope we have with gentleness and respect.” Debbie Ochs “Our mindset changed from what we can get to what we can do for others.”“We want the Holy Spirit to lead us. When He prompts, we want to act.”“Generosity begets generosity.”“We didn’t want to just write checks. We wanted to be involved, to know people, and to walk alongside them.”“Communication is key. You have to share what you’re learning and how God is working in your life.”“Involve your family in giving. That’s how the next generation begins to see and live it.”“We started looking at everything differently when our focus turned outward instead of inward.”“When God gives you opportunities, you have to be ready to respond in that moment.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW Enterprise StewardshipCapital IIIYoungLifeCrown Financial MinistriesGenerous Giving (see our interviews with cofounders Todd Harper and David Wills and CEO, April Chapman)National Christian Foundation (see our interview with President Emeritus, David Wills) BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW 1 Peter 3:15 | Reason for Your Hope “But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and respect.” Galatians 2:20 | Crucified with Christ “I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.” Luke 10:25–37 | The Good Samaritan Proverbs 3:5–6 | Trust in the Lord “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.” Matthew 6:3 | Give in Secret “But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.” TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime. But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for ...
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  • Becca Spradlin, Founder of On Mission Advisors, on Guarding Against Mission Drift (Ep. 183)

    Becca Spradlin, Founder of On Mission Advisors, on Guarding Against Mission Drift (Ep. 183)
    Mar 23 2026
    Becca Spradlin, founder of On Mission Advisors and author of Lead On Mission, has spent her career helping faith-driven organizations stay anchored in their God-given purpose. After early experiences in global missions and microfinance work with HOPE International, God shaped her conviction that even strong ministries are vulnerable to mission drift, especially during seasons of growth, success, or leadership transition. That realization led her to develop practical tools to help leaders discern, define, and protect their calling over time. In this conversation, Becca shares how organizations can faithfully steward influence by clarifying their mission, building guardrails, and cultivating leaders who are deeply rooted in Christ. She highlights common risks like funding pressures, misaligned hiring, and expanding beyond core focus, while offering a framework to define, protect, and champion mission with intentionality. The discussion also equips both leaders and givers to pursue alignment, accountability, and long-term Kingdom impact with wisdom and humility. Consider how your leadership or giving might stay anchored in God’s purpose through seasons of growth and opportunity. Major Topics Include: Defining and clarifying organizational mission and purposeIdentifying early warning signs of mission driftFunding pressures and compromise risks in stewardshipHiring for mission alignment, not passive acceptanceProgrammatic focus versus unhealthy scope expansionBuilding guardrails through define, protect, champion frameworkLeadership humility and abiding as foundation for missionDonor alignment and accountability in Kingdom impactSuccession planning to preserve mission across generationsMeasuring spiritual impact alongside financial outcomes QUOTES TO REMEMBER “We want to know not if we’re drifting, but where we’re drifting.”“Mission drift is pervasive. If we’re not intentional, it will happen.”“A prerequisite of a leader that stays on mission is humility.”“We are all prone to wander and prone to drift.”“The quality of your leadership is shown after you’re gone.”“If you bring on passive acceptors, they will not defend the spiritual dimension of the work.”“You never want to compromise on people, even if they’re highly credentialed.”“If we’re so focused on getting the next dollar that we compromise our faith, that’s inconsistent with God’s calling.”“God is the provider. He controls the pace of growth.”“It may not be on your wall, but it should be lived out in a palpable way.”“Clarity is what helps organizations stay on mission over time.”“Everything is God’s. He’s just sharing it with us.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW On Mission AdvisorsOn Mission Self AssessmentLead On Mission by Becca SpradlinHope International (see our interview with founder, Jeff Rutt or CEO, Peter Greer)Mission Drift (see our interview with author Peter Greer) BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW John 15:5 | Abide in the Vine “I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.” Hebrews 2:1 | Pay Closer Attention “Therefore we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, lest we drift away from it.” 1 Peter 5:8 | The Prowling Lion “Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.” Matthew 19:21 | The Rich Young Ruler “Jesus said to him, ‘If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.’” TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime. But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?” That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity. Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we’ve shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step. If you’ve been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.
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    1 h y 4 m
  • Sharla Langston, Cofounder of Women Doing Well, on the Intersection of Purpose and Passion (Ep. 182)

    Sharla Langston, Cofounder of Women Doing Well, on the Intersection of Purpose and Passion (Ep. 182)
    Mar 16 2026
    Sharla Langston has spent decades working at the intersection of faith, purpose, and generosity. After beginning her career as a petroleum engineer and serving in roles that ranged from Alaska to Capitol Hill, God gradually redirected her path through experiences that reshaped her understanding of stewardship and calling. Her journey eventually led her into ministry roles with a local church, the National Christian Foundation, and ultimately into deeper work helping others discover how generosity connects with the unique purpose God has given them. As co-founder of Women Doing Well, Sharla has helped thousands of women explore how their God-given purpose, passions, and resources fit together. Through research, community, and guided pathways, the ministry helps women overcome barriers to generosity and gain clarity about how to steward their time, talent, and treasure. In this conversation, Sharla reflects on the lessons she has learned across the generosity ecosystem, from local churches to global impact investing, and shares practical wisdom for walking faithfully through fears, decisions, and opportunities around giving. Listen to discover how identifying your God-given purpose can unlock greater confidence, freedom, and joy in generosity. Major Topics Include: Discovering purpose as the foundation for generosityAligning purpose, passion, and giving plansOvercoming fear and scarcity in stewardshipCommunity as a catalyst for generous livingUnique generosity barriers faced by Christian womenIntegrating generosity within marriage and familyThe role of advisors in serving women wellGiving and impact investing as complementary toolsThe limits and strengths of generosity in the local church QUOTES TO REMEMBER “Discover your purpose, ignite your passion, and then make a plan for giving and living in God’s image.”“The purpose sector of getting a two-word purpose statement so brilliantly covers your whole life. You can look back on it and you can look forward with it.”“When purpose and passion align, the confidence to step into generosity grows tremendously.”“When God personally acts so strongly, the faith builds.”“Find your people. They’re out there. They need you and you need them.”“Community is what women wanted and needed but often couldn’t identify.”“If there’s fear present, you have to ask what’s really behind that.”“God gives us so much more than financial resources that we can actually be generous with.”“When believers are putting their investments to work for the Kingdom, from mutual funds to core capital, that’s something everybody can do.”“The prayerful approach to giving or investing strengthens what God can do in and through us.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW When God Interrupts by M. Craig BarnesCrown Financial MinistriesNational Christian Foundation (see our interview with President Emeritus, David Wills)Generous Church (see our interview with founder Patrick Johnson)Generous Giving (see our interviews with cofounders Todd Harper and David Wills and CEO, April Chapman)Women Doing Well (see our interview with President, Julie Wilson)How to Find a Date Worth Keeping by Dr. Henry CloudImpact Foundation (see our interview with Founder, Aimee Minnich)Faith Driven InvestorFaith Driven Entrepreneur TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime. But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?” That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity. Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we’ve shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step. If you’ve been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.
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    55 m
  • Emanuel Bistrian, Executive Director of Generosity Path, on Surrender Amidst Scarcity and Abundance (Ep. 181)

    Emanuel Bistrian, Executive Director of Generosity Path, on Surrender Amidst Scarcity and Abundance (Ep. 181)
    Mar 9 2026

    Emanuel Bistrian, Executive Director of Generosity Path, grew up in a small Romanian village under communism, one of twelve children in a faithful Christian family. After immigrating to Chicago with almost nothing, he watched his mother give generously even in scarcity. That witness shaped his ambition, not simply to succeed, but to live on purpose. Over time, as he built businesses in the United States and Romania, God reshaped his view of wealth from something to secure into something to steward with open hands.

    In this conversation, Emanuel shares how he and his wife chose to give from revenue rather than profit, trusting God through the global financial crisis and seasons of real risk. He describes how local generosity is transforming churches in places like Ethiopia and South Sudan, restoring dignity and fueling gospel work from within communities rather than depending on the West. Through Generosity Path, he now helps leaders around the world discover generosity as surrender, community, and mission. Listen to explore how courageous generosity can restore dignity and strengthen faith in every season.

    Major Topics Include:

    • Generosity as surrender, not strategy
    • Giving from revenue, not just profit
    • Trusting God through financial risk
    • Integrating faith and entrepreneurship
    • Building generosity into business systems
    • Community as catalyst for generous living
    • Restoring dignity through local generosity
    • Shifting from Western dependence to local ownership
    QUOTES TO REMEMBER
    • “I realized that God wasn’t poor in Romania. We as His people needed to learn generosity.”
    • “If we didn’t do something that extreme, we would never give.”
    • “We didn’t want to wait to tally up the profits to see if we were profitable enough to give.”
    • “I would rather risk too much than too little when it comes to generosity.”
    • “It’s never a thing of how much you have. God can multiply the fish and the loaves.”
    • “We all have everything we need to accomplish what God has called us to.”
    • “Generosity in community is the next logical thing. Why wouldn’t you want to give with others?”
    • “Business people can be quite lonely, but community brings the joy back.”
    • “Generosity restores dignity.”
    • “When the Holy Spirit downloads His heart into yours, transformation takes place.”
    LINKS FROM THE SHOW
    • Generosity Path
    • Generous Giving (see our interviews with cofounders Todd Harper and David Wills and CEO, April Chapman)
    • Journey to Generosity (JoG) with Generous Giving
    • Praxis (see our interview with Cofounder Josh Kwan)
    • MacLellan Foundation (see our interview with Director of Generosity, John Cortines)
    • Handful of Rice video
    • Bishop Hannington video
    TAKE A STEP DEEPER

    On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime.

    But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?”

    That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity.

    Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we’ve shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step.

    If you’ve been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.
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    1 h y 15 m
  • Jeff Latture, Executive VP of Barnhart Crane & Rigging, on Multiplying Impact Through Strategic Collaborative Giving (Ep. 180)

    Jeff Latture, Executive VP of Barnhart Crane & Rigging, on Multiplying Impact Through Strategic Collaborative Giving (Ep. 180)
    Mar 2 2026
    Jeff Latture serves as Executive Vice President at Barnhart Crane and Rigging and as chairman of Strategic Resource Group, but his journey into collaborative generosity began long before boardrooms and grant strategies. Growing up in Arkansas, he watched his parents come to genuine faith, yet it was later in Dallas through a vibrant church community and a pivotal sermon from Bill Bright, that his faith became personal. A simple conversation with his future wife about missions planted an early vision: if they could not go, perhaps they could send. God reshaped that vision when He closed the door to starting their own business and instead led Jeff to Barnhart, a company committed to investing its profits in the Great Commission. Over three decades, Jeff has helped cultivate GROVE, Barnhart’s internal collaborative giving team, and advance a mutual fund model of ministry through the Strategic Resource Group. He has learned that wise generosity requires shared mission, deep relationships, patient trust, and a willingness to surrender control. Collaborative structures, clear strategy, and long-term partnerships have multiplied Kingdom impact across frontier regions. This conversation offers a thoughtful vision for pursuing obedience, discernment, and deeper partnership in your own stewardship journey. Major Topics Include: Give collaboratively, not independentlyBuild trust through long-term relationshipsShifting from transactions to partnershipsOrganize giving around focused teamsLeveraging business wisdom for Kingdom impactInvesting in ministry capacity and healthHow to balance metrics with Spirit-led discernmentSurrendering control in stewardship QUOTES TO REMEMBER “What I really wanted in starting a business was to be in control. And God wasn’t going to let me have that.”“He said, I’ll let you serve the ones in control, but I’m not going to let you be the ultimate steward.”“We would never have thought ever that we would have the viewpoint that we have for what God’s doing around the world. But it just started one relationship and one gift at a time.”“Giving together is way better than trying to do it on your own.”“You just learn faster in a group than you can by yourself.”“It’s our secret sauce is doing things together and getting the thinking of many people pointing the same direction.”“A good collaborative will cost you something. You have to give up some rights for a collaborative to work.”“Knowing the heart of the leader is the most important thing.”“It’s very relational. We like to measure things. We’re a bunch of engineers. But it’s really the relationships that drive us.”“If we’ll go to God first and really lean in to listening to what Scripture says and what the Holy Spirit is saying before we make those funding decisions, somehow it comes out with a better result.”“My personal experience over 30 years, He will do far more than you can ever imagine with the things that He’s given you.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW Alan Barnhart (see our past interview here)When Helping Hurts (see our interview with coauthor Brian Fikkert)Mission IncreaseStrategic Resource GroupThe India AllianceIllumiNations Bible Translation Alliance (see our interview with Todd Peterson or John Chesnut)MacLellan Foundation (see our interview with Director of Generosity, John Cortines)MergonDoug Cobb, Founder of The Finishing Fund (see our past interview here)Achieve Alliance BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Matthew 28:19–20 | The Great Commission “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Esther 4:14 | For Such a Time as This “For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another place, but you and your father’s house will perish. And who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this?” TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime. But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?” That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity. Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we’ve shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step. If you’ve been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.
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    48 m
  • Josh Kwan, CEO of The Gathering, on the Importance of Community in Spiritual Growth (Ep. 179)

    Josh Kwan, CEO of The Gathering, on the Importance of Community in Spiritual Growth (Ep. 179)
    Feb 23 2026
    Josh Kwan is the CEO of The Gathering and co-founder of Praxis, but his path into generosity began long before those titles. Raised by immigrant parents and formed by a faithful local church, Josh carried a deep love for Jesus into a career in journalism. God later redirected him through an unexpected opportunity to help lead philanthropy for entrepreneur David Weekley, where he learned firsthand how wise stewardship, rigorous thinking, and humble dependence on God can work together. That season shaped his conviction that generosity is not a side activity for Christians, but a calling that requires formation in community. Through Praxis, Josh helped cultivate entrepreneurs whose ventures serve as vehicles for Kingdom impact, grounding ambition in a rule of life that guards the heart from money and power. At The Gathering, he now walks alongside families stewarding significant wealth, helping them embrace risk, think with an eternal horizon, and pursue collaboration over control. This conversation offers a thoughtful vision for generosity shaped by humility, surrender, and deep relationships, and invites you to consider how community might transform your own stewardship journey. Major Topics Include: Formation through intentional communityIntegrating faith and vocationInvesting in leaders, not just ideasShaping entrepreneurs with a rule of lifeRisk and eternity in Christian philanthropyHumility in partnership with practitionersMoney as amplifier of identityGenerosity as shared, relational practiceBalancing strategy with Spirit-led obedience QUOTES TO REMEMBER “I never thought I’d become a ‘professional Christian.’”“If you believe in the leader, you can fund that leader because they are going to do some good things in part because that leader has a pursuit of the Kingdom.”“We were able to talk about and put into place the spiritual formation and practices and rhythms at the beginning, so that you’re not thinking about it by the time you’re exiting and you have a lot more zeros behind your name.”“The rule of life is meant to be done together in relationship, with transparency and accountability and vulnerability.”“I think God’s bigger than the way that He’s made me and put me in this vessel, and I can appreciate someone else’s way of thinking.”“One of the remarkable things about Christian generosity is that we have this eternal time horizon.”“Effectiveness can itself become an idol.”“We sin just like you sin. We put on our pants just like you put on your pants. We need Jesus just like you need Jesus.”“How do we take this responsibility, maybe even a burden, and find incredible joy and meaning in joining God’s work in the world?” LINKS FROM THE SHOW The GatheringPraxisDavid Weekly Foundation (aka Dovetail Impact Foundation)When Helping Hurts (see our interview with coauthor Brian Fikkert)Gospel Patrons (see our interview with founder John Rinehart) BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Matthew 28:19–20 | The Great Commission “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” 1 Corinthians 12:12–27 | One Body, Many Members Romans 12:4–5 | Members of One Another “For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function, so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.” TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime. But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?” That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity. Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we’ve shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step. If you’ve been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.
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    1 h y 5 m
  • Kristen Shuler, President of East West Ministries, on Church Planting in the Darkest Regions of the World (Ep. 178)

    Kristen Shuler, President of East West Ministries, on Church Planting in the Darkest Regions of the World (Ep. 178)
    Feb 16 2026
    Kristen Shuler, President of East-West Ministries International, shares how God shaped her calling to take the gospel to the world’s least reached people. Raised in a Christian home with a deep commitment to discipleship and missions, Kristen came to faith at a young age and learned early that obedience to God often comes before visible fruit. Those formative experiences, including years of frontline ministry overseas, continue to anchor her leadership today. At East-West, Kristen helps lead a global network focused on multiplying disciples and churches in spiritually dark places where access to the gospel is limited or nonexistent. Rather than relying on outside control, East-West prioritizes local leadership, obedience-based discipleship, and collaboration across ministries, trusting God to grow lasting movements of faith. Kristen speaks honestly about the cost of faithfulness, the patience required when fruit is slow to appear, and the freedom that comes from surrendering outcomes to God. This conversation offers a hopeful vision for wise stewardship, faithful generosity, and finding your place in God’s mission. Listen to explore how obedience, prayer, and collaboration shape lasting Kingdom impact. Major Topics Include: Obedience over visible ministry resultsMultiplication as a core discipleship DNAReaching unengaged and unreached people groupsLocal ownership of the missionary taskObedience based versus knowledge based discipleshipFinding joy beyond performance driven ministryCollaboration reshaping global missions strategyPrayer as essential spiritual laborDiverse pathways for Great Commission participation QUOTES TO REMEMBER “The ministry is not about seeing fruit. The ministry is about obedience.”“Even if I didn’t see the fruit, I could trust that He was at work.”“The Lord uses every step of obedience and every seed that’s planted as part of His ultimate plan.”“Discipleship is not just about gaining knowledge, but about being obedient to the Word of God.”“If I tell somebody what to do, that will fail every time. But when God’s Word and the Spirit lead, that’s where transformation happens.”“The Great Commission is a God-given mandate for every follower of Jesus to find their place in.”“It’s not about choosing what feels comfortable, but responding in obedience to what God is asking.”“The people are waiting to hear. They simply need a laborer to come to them.”“Not a single one of us can accomplish the Great Commission on our own.”“That humility we’re seeing across missions organizations is something only the Spirit can do.”“We want to learn, grow, and come with open hands to see what the Lord might do through unity.”“If I’m not abiding in Jesus, I have very little to offer anyone else.”“Do we want to be known for our strategies, or do we want to be known for loving Jesus?”“If we’re not marked by our love for Jesus, our strategies will be ineffective.” LINKS FROM THE SHOW East-West Ministries InternationalInternational Missions BoardCoalition of the Willing (see our interviews with founding members Jared Nelms and Scott Cheatham)The Treasure Principle (see our interview with author Randy Alcorn) BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW Matthew 28:19–20 | Make Disciples of All Nations Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age. Acts 1:8 | Witness to the Ends But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth. Galatians 5:25 | Keeping in Step with the Spirit If we live by the Spirit, let us also keep in step with the Spirit. Matthew 9:37–38 | The Harvest Is Plentiful Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few; therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.” John 15:4–5 | Abide and Bear Fruit Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. John 17:20–23 | Unity That the World May Believe Matthew 6:21 | Treasure and the Heart For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. TAKE A STEP DEEPER On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime. But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?” That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity. Applied ...
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  • Erin Moser, Director of Advancement at Musana, on Self-Sustaining Community Development in Uganda (Ep. 177)

    Erin Moser, Director of Advancement at Musana, on Self-Sustaining Community Development in Uganda (Ep. 177)
    Feb 9 2026

    Erin Moser serves as Chief Advancement Officer at Musana Community Development Organization, where her calling grew from a simple act of generosity into a lifelong commitment to dignifying, sustainable impact. After encountering Musana’s founder through a local church, Erin and her family began supporting the work quietly. However, it was travelling to Uganda and witnessing firsthand how God was using local leadership, not Western charity, to restore communities that reshaped her understanding of generosity, stewardship, and what lasting faith-driven impact can look like on the ground.

    Today, Erin helps advance Musana’s enterprise-driven model, where schools, hospitals, women’s training centers, and businesses work together to address poverty at its roots. Rather than creating dependence, Musana invests in infrastructure that becomes locally owned, locally led, and financially sustainable. Erin shares hard lessons learned along the way, the importance of humility in giving, and why stewardship means deploying resources wisely so communities can flourish long after outside support steps back.

    Listen to this episode to reconsider how faith, generosity, and wise stewardship can multiply impact through local ownership and trust in God’s design.

    Major Topics Include:

    • Moving from charity to dignifying partnership
    • Local ownership as the path to lasting impact
    • Addressing poverty through job creation
    • Infrastructure over programs for sustainability
    • Humility in learning across cultures
    • Letting communities lead their own solutions
    • Measuring success beyond short-term outcomes
    QUOTES TO REMEMBER
    • “Orphanages create orphans.”
    • “Generosity should be catalytic. It should restore dignity, not take it away.”
    • “How dignifying is it to a parent to say, you can’t provide for your own child, so let someone from the West do it for you?”
    • “We have to stop imposing our Western ideals and learn together with what actually works in their landscape.”
    • “Faithful stewardship isn’t about how much we give, but how we intentionally deploy what God has entrusted to us.”
    • “We don’t run programs. We build infrastructure.”
    • “Economists say no developing country will ever lift itself out of poverty by charity alone.”
    • “Once we got on the ground, we realized how insignificant we were to the solution.”
    • “They didn’t need us as much as we needed them.”
    • “The locals are the heroes of their own story.”
    • “God just kept putting one simple step in front of the other.”
    • “It started with saying yes, and the understanding came later.”
    • “God doesn’t call us to preserve our resources. He calls us to put them to work.”
    LINKS FROM THE SHOW

    Musana Community Development Organization

    BIBLE REFERENCES FROM THE SHOW

    Zechariah 4:10 | Faithful Small Beginnings

    “For whoever has despised the day of small things shall rejoice, and shall see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel.”

    Matthew 25:14–30 | Stewardship of Entrusted Resources

    Matthew 6:1–4 | Heart Posture in Giving

    Mark 12:41–44 | The Widow’s Offering

    TAKE A STEP DEEPER

    On the Finish Line podcast, we are all about stories, seeing how God draws us into generosity over a lifetime.

    But sometimes these stories can leave us thinking, “What’s that next step look like for me?”

    That’s exactly why we’ve launched a whole new podcast called Applied Generosity which explores the full landscape of the generous life across 7 different dimensions of generosity.

    Applied Generosity helps make sense of the hundreds of stories we’ve shared on the Finish Line Podcast to help you find that best next step.

    If you’ve been inspired by these stories and want to take things to the next level, check out Applied Generosity anywhere you listen to podcasts or at appliedgenerosity.com.
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