• The Fifth Risk

  • Undoing Democracy
  • By: Michael Lewis
  • Narrated by: Victor Bevine
  • Length: 5 hrs and 10 mins
  • 4.3 out of 5 stars (87 ratings)

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By: Michael Lewis
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Penguin presents the audiobook edition of The Fifth Risk by Michael Lewis.   

The morning after Trump was elected president, the people who ran the US Department of Energy - an agency that deals with some of the most powerful risks facing humanity - waited to welcome the incoming administration's transition team. Nobody appeared. Across the US government, the same thing happened: nothing.   

People don't notice when stuff goes right. That is the stuff government does. It manages everything that underpins our lives from funding free school meals, to policing rogue nuclear activity, to predicting extreme weather events. It steps in where private investment fears to tread, innovates and creates knowledge, assesses extreme long-term risk.  

And now, government is under attack. By its own leaders.  

In The Fifth Risk, Michael Lewis reveals the combustible cocktail of wilful ignorance and venality that is fuelling the destruction of a country's fabric. All of this, Lewis shows, exposes America and the world to the biggest risk of all. It is what you never learned that might have saved you.

©2018 Michael Lewis (P)2018 Penguin Audio

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A wonderful love letter to government

If you want a book that will help you appreciate everything government accomplishes, and the inherent risks of handing it over to the ignorant and malicious, this is the book for you.

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Good sub-stories but not cohesive

The book starts off well and starts showing how the current leadership is doing things and how it is undermining all the previous doings of past leaderships. The listener gets a sense of things are heading for the worse and a sense of doom.

However after the first couple of chapters the stories are more about how someones capabilities was undermined and how they were mistreated by the current leadership. It doesn't really tie it in to the democracy or how those actions are 'undoing democracy' and only just gives a feeling that a wrong was done.

In all it leaves more questions and concerns than answers and you feel very incomplete after listening to this.

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Ignorance is Bliss, Until...

Superb in every way. The problem is that many of the people who most need to read/listen to this will probably not, for all of the reasons elucidated in this book.

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  • Matt L.
  • 10-07-18

Very poor

very poor compared to previous Michael Lewis books. No real thread or conclusion and little related to Trump from halfway onwards

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 10-05-18

Left feeling cheated

I’d read an excerpt from this in the Guardian newspaper which made me think it was another insider’s take on the Trump administration. It isn’t.

There are a few anecdotes but this is no “Fear” or “Fire and Fury” or even “Unhinged” - its considerably shorter than those and if you are expecting something similar you will be disappointed.

It feels like there are a few tales massively padded out with tangents and waffle. Typically it is pages and pages about what a government department does, what the common man would imagine the department does, how this perception differs across state, and then usually “but they heard nothing from Trump when he got into power”

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  • Sebastian D'Anconia
  • 12-31-18

A love letter to undemocratic institutions

An emotional, anecdotal love letter to everything the federal government does. It completely lacks the objectivity and journalistic principles of Lewis's previous work and reads simply as an anti-Trump hit job that will get swept away in the fake-news counter attack from Trump supporters.

The book starts with a fascinating account of how disorganised the Trump transition team was (it seems most transition teams are disorganised, but Trump's was especially so). This is the most interesting part of the book and is genuinely entertaining and informative. It shows how much government work is lost in transition.

It then becomes a pornography of pro-government interviews and explorations of the different parts of government, what they do, how under appriciated every aspect of government is, how charitable and public spirited every single government employee is and how the evil idealogues at Heritage (and other right wing think tanks) and trying to destroy the benovlent God of the Federal Government.

The book reamins interesting even during this, because many of the functions of the government are truly opaque and it is fascinating to learn what they do. However, there are some frankly incredible claims made about the government. Such as, without the federal government rural America would not have drinking water. This left me absolutely flabbergasted. As if fresh drinking water can only be provided by the state and isn't availible in every shop or can't be ordered in bulk or bought privately in huge portable water stores, or captured and refined privately by communities.

Another claim was that government research funds lend to people and businesses the private sector would not. But later Lewis claims that JP Morgan would love to have these loans on their books. So the private sector would make these loans.

Lewis's most compelling case for the work of government is around weather and big data. The story around the value of this data that the government has been able to capture and the attempts that Accu Weather have made to undermine people's access to their data (which tax payers have paid for) is thought provoking. But I still find the central claim that only government has the incentive to capture and manage big data ludicrous when we see private giants like Google, Amazon and Facebook doing this every day.

The big weakness of this book is that Lewis absolutely ignores the costs of these institutions (particularly opportunity cost). He writes as if he believes that if the government didn't spend all this money, then they money would just sit there. It wouldn't be utilised by private individuals and organisations to create products and services which improve living standards. He doesn't explore any of the private developments, scientific and economic, that have been blocked or hampered by government or were simply unable to compete with government equivalents that don't have to operate under market conditions. And he does not explore the massive overall tax burden these huge institutions impose on people, making them poorer.

The biggest weakness to his argument that all these institutions are essential is he doesn't explore those countries who are achieving better public outcomes with less government, such as Denmark, Singapore, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, New Zealand Australia etc.

Finally, the subtitle to the book, undoing democracy, is inappropriate. If anything the book demonstrates how undemocratic and arbitrary many of these institutions are. The whole system is so opaque and complex there is little to no democratic accountability and much corruption. While Trump is hardly a champion of transparent government, he certainly isn't responsible for the completely undemocratic condition of these institutions. But, counterintuitively, perhaps his incompetence is finally shining a light on these dark areas of government that are spending billions and opening the debate about what's really important.

Still worth the price of the book despite its weaknesses and the Audio is expertly read.

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  • J100
  • 10-14-18

Not vintage Lewis

The book contains a collection of interesting facts/themes, but not a clear overriding angle, which is so often Lewis’ hallmark.

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  • Mdta
  • 02-22-19

Light and a little one sided

I like Michael Lewis' books. I had high hope for this one and the topic (administration) it covered. Sadly, I feel like it was a little one-sided and its intentions were clear from the start.

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  • Sonny Singh
  • 04-04-22

Everyone should pay attention

This book highlights why Self Empowerment is essential and to understand what you fail to imagine might be the thing that kills you

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  • Yeah_Me122
  • 09-12-21

I'm still not sure what the 5th risk is

I really did enjoy this book but I think the chapters / points could have been better summarised as we were going along. I found that the studies were shifting from case to case and I wasn't entirely sure what I was supposed to take away from the last one.

Basically it just needed a clearer structure in my opinion.

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  • Hashim
  • 05-26-21

Insightful!

I was recommended the book as a part of my University course and decided to get it on audible. I definitely found it insightful!
Makes a strong case for good leadership in an uncertain environment and ofcourse building of trust with the stakeholders.

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  • G. Broster
  • 05-26-21

Meandering

Whilst the overall impact of this audiobook was good, it took a meandering route though lots of stories that in themselves were interesting, but as a whole made me lose interest every so often.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 11-27-20

The incompetence of the Donald's write large!

Confirms how useless and disfunctional the Trump administration is/was from the start. shows how the prejudiced ideas of ideologue political appointees about government and how it works means you get malfunctioning beaurocracy and effectively corruption.

However whilst it is a critic of what is wrong with the American Government's political appointments and the system it inspires it does not offer any solutions. This is not a critisim if you keep in mind this is really a polemic showing just how useless Donald Trump has been at running a government even though he has been brilliant campaigner who captured a significant element of the American zietgist.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 10-29-18

Lewis has done it again

What I love about reading his work is that Lewis succeeds in making even the most dry content utterly and completely bewitching. The book explores particular departments of the American government, some of its vital past and present players and shines a light on the changing landscape of democracy as we know it. The book is an exploration of these ideas, invites the reader to consider these points and wants you to pick apart issues you didn't even know about, using new information you never knew was relevant.

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  • Jarrad
  • 11-26-18

Boring

Struggled through this one. I have listened to every Michael Lewis audiobook and this one is the only one that failed to keep my interest. Perhaps being a non american has something to do with it. As usual Lewis uncovers some little known but important issue and weaves a narrative. However i was not entertained.

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  • John
  • 11-05-18

Obviously political message

This feels like a short book rushed out in time for the 2018 mid-term elections. A valid message but unworthy of the writer of such excellent books in the past.

The two messages: the fifth risk is project management and "it's what you don't imagine that will kill you" are pertinent for this time. The anecdotes from the excellent employees in various government departments bring out the necessity of having the truly expert protect the country.
But it could have been much more thoroughly developed.

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  • Mark M
  • 07-03-22

Engrossing and worthwhile

I thought I would get a glimpse of an incompetent transition and apathy from an incoming administration.
While that is true, and far worse – the best part of this book was leaning about all the outstanding accomplished individuals who choose to go into government service, the breadth of what is handled by US government departments, the sheer scale of the risks and the services, sciences and technologies they provide that put simply would not be pursued by the private sector.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 06-17-22

Enjoyed it, but…

Some of the chapters have been covered in his podcast, I think there may be more content in this book than the podcast (or maybe I just captured more listening the second time round). Also the narration is quite good but after Michael narrated Liars Poker and his podcast I found myself wishing he was narrating several times.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 09-11-19

My worldview has changed

this is an incredibly interesting and inspiring book.. my views were shifted as always thanks to Michael!

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  • Thurston
  • 04-02-19

Mind expanding

it's amazing to catch a glimpse of how many critical functions are performed buy agents of the federal government that most people have no clue about.

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  • Jack Fleming
  • 01-30-19

The best book published thus far on the Trump Adm.

While the book doesn't explore trumps high level decisions it follows the down river consequences of his blatant disregard for the functioning of government. The floor in this reasoning came to light in the most recent government shutdown where trumps administration could not see any disasters consequences from a government shutdown. Government is a complex Institution disregarding its function is something you make at your own peril and only heights the fifth risk to humanities existence.

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  • Ballina Beach
  • 11-23-18

Wow!

Read this book! It’s brilliant and scary. This is the invisible working of government Amazing! Well-written & researched Michael Lewis’ trademark.

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  • Stephen Oroszvari
  • 11-22-18

Wait for your President to care for this

Once again Michael Lewis explains complex problems in a way a Trump should be able comprehend. Federal bureaucracy discussed and it makes you wonder how important these agencies are. Great listen!