In this conversation, Ryan Munsey sits down with Patrick Lencioni—bestselling author of The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team and creator of The 6 Types of Working Genius—to unpack a powerful framework for understanding your gifts, your frustrations, and your best role on any team. Pat explains The 6 Working Geniuses and how every project moves through three phases: Ideation, Activation, and Implementation. You'll see why certain tasks give you energy while others drain you, why some teams constantly drop the ball, and how misalignment creates burnout, resentment, and quiet quitting even in high performers.

You'll learn:

• The 6 Types of Working Genius and how they show up in real work
• The difference between your genius, competency, and frustration zones
• Why burnout is more about misalignment than workload
• How to build teams that have all six geniuses covered
• Practical questions to diagnose your team gaps and blind spots
• One simple way to redesign your week around your Working Genius.

Chapters:

• 00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Working Genius
• 04:41 Pat's Journey to Discovering Working Genius
• 09:41 Understanding the Six Types of Working Genius
• 14:49 Coaching and Balancing Working Genius in Relationships
• 19:57 Implementing Working Genius in Organizations
• 26:35 Understanding Working Genius in Teams
• 28:49 The Six Types of Working Genius
• 37:13 Implementation and Team Dynamics
• 46:01 Celebrating Individual Strengths
• 51:02 Embracing Your Natural Abilities

Links:

• Connect with Pat Lencioni
  • Use Code CHAINS to Save 20% on Working Genius Assessments
  • Pat's Table Group website
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• Connect with Ryan Munsey
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If you're a leader, entrepreneur, coach, or high performer who wants to build healthier teams, improve collaboration, and fall back in love with your work, this episode will give you a practical language and toolset you can use immediately.

In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, Ryan Munsey interviews Tim Thomas, a former Australian Special Forces operator and founder of Breathwork in Bed. Tim shares his journey from military service to helping veterans and others heal through breathwork. He discusses the importance of breath as a tool for self-regulation, the impact of fatigue on performance, and the significance of connection and community in overcoming isolation. Tim also emphasizes the need for self-worth and identity in personal growth, providing practical techniques for listeners to improve their mental and physical wellness.

Chapters

• 00:00 Introduction to Tim Thomas and Breathwork
• 05:58 Tim's Journey with Breathwork and Trauma Healing
• 13:22 Understanding Fatigue and Energy Investment
• 19:34 Breaking Isolation and Loneliness
• 24:53 Achieving a Lifetime Goal: Saving Lives
• 30:52 The Impact of Mental Processing on Life Quality
• 38:01 Removing Blockages for Self-Sovereignty
• 43:32 Breath Techniques for Energy and Clarity
• 52:09 Practical Tools for Daily Awareness

Links:

• Connect with Tim Thomas
  • Breathwork In Bed App
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  • Tim Thomas Website
  • Tim Thomas on Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn
• Connect with Ryan Munsey
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• Get Your Copy of F*ck Your Feelings
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• Save 10% on your first melin hat, the world's best hats: Use the code MoveTheChains10 at melin.com

Norman Wolfe is a former senior executive at Hewlett-Packard who led the turnaround of a $1.2B operation. Now the founder & CEO of Quantum Leaders and creator of The Living Organization® joins me to unpack how to build organizations that actually execute, grow, and thrive in a rapidly changing world.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why so many strategies fail
• How to move beyond the outdated "machine" model of business
• What it really takes to lead a living, adaptive, purpose-driven organization.
• The 3 types of energy that drive execution,
• The real levers behind culture and performance,
• How leaders can align strategy, people, and purpose to create sustainable results.

Norman shares lessons from working with Fortune 500 companies and high-growth startups, and coaching CEOs who want to transform their organizations from the inside out. If you're a CEO, founder, executive, or emerging leader who cares about strategy execution, organizational transformation, and human-centered leadership, this episode will give you the frameworks and practical shifts to upgrade how you lead.

Chapters:

• 00:00 – Why most strategies fail
• 05:00 – Norman Wolfe's journey from HP to The Living Organization
• 14:00 – Why organizations are living systems, not machines
• 24:00 – The three types of energy that drive execution
• 36:00 – How to design culture and strategy that actually align
• 48:00 – The inner game of the leader
• 1:02:00 – Practical steps to start leading a Living Organization

Links:

• Connect with Norman Wolfe
  • The Living Organization book
  • Quantum Leaders website
  • Norman Wolfe on LinkedIn
• Connect with Ryan Munsey
  • Website
  • Follow Ryan on Instagram
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  • Connect with Ryan on LinkedIn
• Get Your Copy of F*ck Your Feelings
  • Audible
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• Save 10% on your first melin hat, the world's best hats: Use the code MoveTheChains10 at melin.com