"When you make a print, you are making an art object. You can’t hang a scan on the wall." - George Tice

"One of these days, I'm going to publish a book of all the pictures I did not take. It is going to be a huge hit." - René Burri

In this episode, Antonio and Ward focus on printing as a way of bringing photographs off the screen and into physical form. Using their recent conversation with Gavin as a starting point, they talk about books, zines, print exchanges, and the appeal of making photographic work tangible. They also discuss paper choice, including the look and feel of thicker fine art papers, and how printing decisions affect the final presentation of an image.

The conversation moves into the practical side of selling prints. Antonio and Ward talk about questions around print fulfillment, whether to handle printing personally or use a service such as SmugMug, how much control a photographer should keep over size and presentation, and how to decide which images are right for sale. The episode centers on the process of moving from digital files to finished prints, and on the choices photographers face when they want to share or sell their work in physical form.

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"When I play music, I see images. When I make images, I often hear music."

"Wonder is not a property of childhood but a function of attention.”

-- Gavin Libotte

In this episode, Antonio and Ward mark their 250th show by talking with Australian photographer Gavin Libotte, whose path back into photography took a long detour through graphic design, music, teaching, and family life before street photography pulled him in for good. Gavin talks about losing his camera gear when he was young, rediscovering image-making through the iPhone and Hipstamatic, and then finding a deeper creative groove through daily shooting, books, zines, and long-term projects. What comes through most is how photography, for him, is tied to rhythm, intuition, and being fully present in the moment, with music and visual composition feeding each other in a very personal way.

The conversation also gets into the way Gavin works: his graphic sense of color and design, his experiments with off-camera flash, his water photography, and the making of his book Symphony Number Five. Along the way, Antonio and Ward respond to the emotional pull of Gavin’s pictures, especially one Sydney Opera House image that sends the discussion into ideas about wonder, timing, and why certain photographs hit so deeply. It ends up being one of those episodes that is partly about technique, partly about books and process, and partly about what photography can do for a person when it becomes a way of staying awake to the world.

Note: Gavin mentioned Melissa "O'Doherty" by mistake but actually meant Melissa O'Shaughnessy.

Gavin Libotte - Website, Instagram. Purchase his book "Symphony No 5" here.

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"The more pictures you see, the better you are as a photographer”. - Robert Mapplethorpe

"It’s a weird combination that makes a great picture. It’s a complete mystery to me." - Alec Soth

In this episode, Antonio and Ward talk about recent exhibitions, photobooks, and the ongoing evolution of their work. Ward shares his experience seeing large Fred Herzog prints in person and describes the impact of standing in front of that rich, immersive color. The conversation also turns to Tetsuo Suzuki’s latest book and the emotional intensity that can come from sequencing images into a cohesive, almost psychological body of work.

Antonio reflects on presenting “The Fourth Epoch” to the Park West Camera Club, discussing what it means to publicly trace the arc of his creative life and speak openly about transition and change. Along the way, they briefly touch on the visual possibilities of photographing hockey, but the heart of the episode centers on seeing, sequencing, and how photographers make sense of where they’ve been—and where they’re headed.

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