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Welcome to Pool Nation. The Podcast where it’s all Pool Talk. We are talking about becoming a nation of pool pros. We talk about the latest products, trends and training in the Swimming Pool Industry. We interview leaders, and educators in the swimming pool industry.Copyright 2020 All rights reserved. Economía Gestión Gestión y Liderazgo Liderazgo
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  • E-280 Pool Nation Podcast How to Raise Pool Service Prices Without Losing Customers | Pool Nation Podcast
    Dec 22 2025

    In episode 280 of the Pool Nation Podcast, Edgar De Jesus is joined by co-host Zach “The Pool Boy” Nicholas for Part 5 of the Winter Business Series, where they break down one of the hardest decisions pool service business owners face: how to raise prices with confidence — without losing customers.

    Raising prices can feel uncomfortable, emotional, and risky — especially when you’ve worked hard to build your route. Edgar and Zach walk through the real math, the mental hurdles, and the practical strategies pool pros need to protect their margins, improve profitability, and build a sustainable business in today’s changing economy.

    You’ll learn:

    • Why waiting to raise prices actually makes it harder later

    • How to communicate price increases clearly and professionally

    • What customers really care about (hint: it’s not just price)

    • Why losing a few low-margin accounts can actually grow your business

    • How profitability, consistency, and service quality drive customer retention

    This episode is packed with real-world examples, mindset shifts, and actionable advice for pool service business owners who want to stop underpricing their work and start running a business that supports their life — not drains it.

    👉 Next week: Edgar and Zach continue the conversation with a deep dive into customer retention and value-based service.

    ⏱️ Episode Timestamps
    • 00:00 – Christmas intro & end-of-year reflection

    • 01:30 – Why raising prices feels so uncomfortable for pool pros

    • 05:45 – The hidden cost of not knowing your numbers

    • 10:15 – When is the right time to raise prices?

    • 14:30 – Why waiting actually makes price increases worse

    • 20:00 – How to communicate price increases clearly and confidently

    • 26:30 – What customer pushback really looks like

    • 33:00 – Losing customers vs. building a healthier business

    • 41:00 – Real-world math: fewer pools, more profit

    • 48:00 – Handling common objections (“I can find someone cheaper”)

    • 54:00 – Fixed-income customers & tough emotional decisions

    • 59:00 – Why customers actually leave pool companies

    • 1:05:30 – Final thoughts & preview of Part 6 (Customer Retention)

    🙌 Thank You to Our Podcast Sponsors

    A huge thank you to our Pool Nation Podcast sponsors for supporting pool pros and helping us deliver real education to the industry:

    • SPPA (Swimming Pool Pro Alliance)

    • Blu-Ray XL

    • AquaStar Pool Products

    • Natural Chemistry

    • Raypak

    • Heritage Pool Supply

    • Hayward Pool Products

    • Poolside Tech

    • Pool Brain

    • Nidec / US Motors

    Your continued support helps elevate education, professionalism, and profitability across the pool industry.

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    1 h y 11 m
  • E-279 Pool Nation Podcast - Pool Service Pricing Explained: How to Build Real Profit and Margins That Last
    Dec 15 2025

    In episode 279 of the Pool Nation Podcast, Edgar De Jesus is joined by co-hosts Zach “The Pool Boy” Nicholas and John “JJ Flawless” for Part 4 of the Winning Business Series, diving deep into one of the most misunderstood — and most important — topics in the pool industry: profit margins.

    This conversation goes far beyond “raise your prices.” Edgar and Zac break down why margin is the real indicator of business health, how to calculate your true cost per pool, and how to build pricing that actually supports growth, stability, and long-term success.

    You’ll learn why dollar profit alone is fragile, how thin margins quietly destroy pool businesses, and how the Good / Better / Best pricing model can protect your margins while giving customers choice — especially in a market where consumer confidence is tightening.

    The episode also covers:

    How hidden leaks like drive time, chemical creep, and non-billable labor eat away at profits

    Why knowing your numbers removes fear from price increases

    How to prepare your routes and customers before raising rates

    Why winter is the best time to fix your pricing for the year ahead

    If you’re heading into 2026 without absolute clarity on your pricing, margins, and profitability, this episode is a must-listen for pool service owners, repair techs, and business leaders who want to stop guessing and start building intentionally.

    ⏱️ Episode Timestamps

    [00:00:00] Welcome to the Pool Nation Podcast & show intro [00:01:00] Part 4 of the Winning Business Series begins [00:02:30] Why solo podcasts feel different & listener feedback [00:04:00] AquaStar Golden Ticket experience & behind-the-scenes factory tour [00:08:30] Industry culture, leadership, and why AquaStar stands out [00:11:00] Recap of hidden profit leaks from previous episodes [00:14:00] Why margins matter more than dollar profit [00:16:30] Understanding margin percentages (20%, 30%, 40%, 50%+) [00:19:00] Real-world examples of margin failure in pool businesses [00:22:00] How to calculate your true cost per pool [00:24:00] Building pricing based on math — not emotion [00:26:00] Why knowing your numbers changes how you sell [00:29:00] Sponsor break [00:34:00] Good / Better / Best pricing explained [00:38:00] Consumer psychology and why most customers choose “Better” [00:41:00] Using tiered pricing for service and repairs [00:44:00] Preparing for a price increase the right way [00:47:00] Reviewing routes and identifying problem pools [00:50:00] Why winter is the best time to fix pricing [00:54:00] Final thoughts on margins, growth, and confidence [00:56:00] Teaser for Part 5: How to announce price increases [00:57:00] Show outro & where to find Pool Nation resources

    🙌 Thank You to Our Sponsors

    A huge thank you to our visionary partners who make the Pool Nation Podcast possible:

    SPPA (Swimming Pool Pro Alliance)

    AquaStar Pool Products

    Blu-Ray XL

    Natural Chemistry

    Raypak

    Heritage Pool Supply

    Hayward Pool Products

    Poolside Tech

    Pool Brain

    Nidec / US Motors

    Your continued support helps us bring real business education to pool pros everywhere.

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    57 m
  • E-278 Pool Nation Podcast - The Motor That Drives Successful Pool Pros: A Deep Dive with Michelle Watson & Max O’Brien
    Dec 8 2025
    In Episode 278 of Pool Nation Podcast, Edgar and Todd broadcast straight from the AquaStar Studio in Ventura, California, where they sit down with two incredible industry leaders: Michelle Watson (Shell’s Pool & Spa) and Max O’Brien (Ventura Pool Pro & IPSA Region 2 Officer). In this powerful, conversation-driven episode, Michelle and Max open up about their journey as pool professionals, navigating growth, scaling challenges, commercial vs. residential service, hiring, California compliance, and the moment every pool pro faces — letting go and trusting a team. Michelle shares how she built a thriving business, her passion for doing things the right way, and how she balances entrepreneurship with surfing three times a week. Max dives into his 24-year pool career, commercial expertise, IPSA leadership, and his unbelievable work with the Ventura County Sheriff’s Underwater Search & Rescue Team, including helicopter deployment training and real recovery missions. This episode is full of leadership, inspiration, business insight, and a deep look at the people elevating the swimming pool industry every single day. Perfect for pool pros who want to grow, lead, and take their business to the next level. Timestamps / Chapters 00:00 – Welcome to the Pool Nation Podcast Kickoff from AquaStar’s studio; Todd, Edgar & crew set the tone for the night. 01:00 – Golden Ticket Event & First Laughs Behind the scenes, late-night jokes, and studio vibes. 03:00 – Edgar Discovers AquaStar’s Hidden Detail A deep reflection on culture, quality, and details inside AquaStar HQ. 05:00 – Shoutouts & Getting Started Celebrating the Instagram Live audience and diving into the episode. 05:30 – Introducing Michelle Watson Pool Girl of the Year 2022, the creator behind the legendary Awards Afterparty, and a powerhouse entrepreneur. 07:00 – Michelle’s Journey: From Solo Operator to Scaling a Team Trusting employees, handling growth, onboarding, preparing for W-2s, and running a business in California. 10:00 – Residential vs. Commercial Pools Why Michelle prefers commercial service and how she navigates health department regulations. 13:00 – Surfing, Balance & Burnout Prevention How Michelle stays grounded and energized while growing her business. 16:00 – Family, Business & Raising Hard Workers Her son’s journey, firefighting dreams, and working alongside family. 18:00 – The Psychology of Scaling a Pool Business Letting go, employee mistakes, customer expectations, and the fear every owner faces. 20:00 – Building a Model That Works Anywhere Charging correctly, doing things legally, and proving success is possible even in tough markets. 23:00 – Introducing Max O’Brien Commercial specialist, remodel expert, and long-time Ventura pool pro. 24:00 – How Max Got Into the Industry From hotel maintenance → equipment installs → building pools → launching his own company. 26:00 – Operating a 130-Pool Service Company Commercial routes, 5-day-a-week accounts, and running teams. 28:00 – Max on Education, IPSA & Training the Next Generation Why he teaches, how he trains, and preparing techs to become future entrepreneurs. 31:00 – Inside IPSA Ventura: The Most Active Chapter in California Education, manuals, sick-route/tech-for-tech coverage, outreach, and 64-member collaboration. 34:00 – Tech-for-Tech Stories That Define the Industry Real examples of chapters covering full routes during illness, injury, and tragedy. 39:00 – Max’s Second Life: Underwater Search & Rescue His 20-year role with the Ventura County Sheriff’s Dive Team — car recoveries, searches, evidence retrieval, and blind-water operations. 41:00 – Jumping Out of Helicopters What helicopter deployments are really like (spoiler: full scuba gear and 35-foot drops). 43:00 – Recoveries, Emotions & Mental Resilience How divers process tough calls and why closure for families matters. 47:00 – Final Thoughts from Michelle & Max Business advice, industry inspiration, and the motor that pushes great pros forward. 50:00 – Closing Words from Edgar & Todd Celebrating leadership, professionalism, and elevating the pool service industry. 🙏 Sponsors A huge thank you to our amazing sponsors who make the Pool Nation Podcast possible and continue supporting education, innovation, and professionalism within the pool industry: AquaStar Pool Products Blu-Ray XL Raypak Poolside Tech – The Attendant Heritage Pool Supply Group Biolab SPPA – Pool Brain Nidec Hayward Your support helps us bring powerful stories and industry-changing conversations to pool pros everywhere.
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    55 m
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