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  • EXIT STRATEGY is a podcast about geopolitics, conflict, and the illicit political economy. Please support this work at www.patreon.com/exitstrategyshow or a one-time donation thru Venmo @ExitStrategyShow
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  • Sep 22 2022

    Kathryn Stoner (@kath_stoner) is the Mosbacher Director of the Center on Democracy, Development, and the Rule of Law (CDDRL), and a Senior Fellow at CDDRL and the Center on International Security and Cooperation at FSI. From 2017 to 2021, she served as FSI's Deputy Director.

    She is Professor of Political Science (by courtesy) at Stanford and she teaches in the Department of Political Science, and in the Program on International Relations, as well as in the Ford Dorsey Master's in International Policy Program. She is also a Senior Fellow (by courtesy) at the Hoover Institution.

    We talk all things Russia-Ukraine War, how the West (particularly the United States) underestimated its power in the world, the current disinformation campaign, and how China, India, and other States fit into all of this.

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    44 mins
  • Sep 1 2022

    Benjamin Cunningham is a correspondent for The Economist. He covered Central and Eastern Europe for six years, and now writes about the wider Mediterranean region from Barcelona. In addition he contributes to The Guardian, The Los Angeles Review of Books, Aspen Review, Le Monde Diplomatique and is an opinion columnist for Sme, Slovakia’s main daily newspaper. 

    His first book is called The Liar: How a Double Agent in the CIA Became the Cold War's Last Honest Man. In the mid-1970s, the CIA and KGB watched Karel Koecher closely—they were both convinced he was working for the enemy. And they were both right. Traveling with his wife, Hana, Koecher posed as a Czechoslovak asylum seeker and arrived in the US as a Communist sleeper agent. After parlaying a doctorate from Columbia into a job at the CIA, Koecher proceeded to operate as a double agent at the height of the Cold War.
    Shunning a low profile, the Koechers embraced Manhattan’s high life—with cocaine, swinging, and parties emblematic of the times and their penchant for risk. Hana, who was no more than a shy teenager when she arrived, grew into a sophisticated international diamond dealer who relayed messages to Karel’s handlers. Riding a wave of euphoria, the Koechers felt unstoppable. But it was too good to last.
    Using newly declassified documents, interrogation tapes, and extraordinary firsthand accounts from the Koechers themselves, Cunningham reconstructs their double lives and the fading Cold War, where a strange moral fog made it hard to know what truth was being fought for, and to what end.

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    54 mins
  • Jul 3 2022

    I speak to Crisis Group analyst, William Davison, about what is going on in the North of Ethiopia, and what needs to happen to end the war in Tigray. We also talk about the Tigray War disinformation campaign, and how he was a target of it.

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    33 mins

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