Kansas Evolution Hearings

Day 3 (5/7/05)

By: Kansas Board of Education

Length: 6 hrs and 41 mins

Publisher's summary

A subcommittee of the Kansas Board of Education holds hearings on whether the state's science curriculum should permit alternate theories to be taught alongside evolution. During the first three days of hearings, proponents of intelligent design present their views. They are represented by a retired lawyer, John Calvert, who heads the Intelligent Design Network of Shawnee Mission, Kansas. The witnesses are questioned by the members of the subcommittee and by attorney Pedro Irigonegaray, who supports the teaching of evolution.

Listen to Day 1 and Day 2 of the Kansas Evolution Hearings.

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©2005 Kansas Board of Education (P)2005 Audible, Inc.

dragging out of the biased testimony

If you are interested in the creationism/evolution debate, you will need a good stomach indeed to listen to many hours of tendentious, biased & self-righteous discussion of the creationism side. The first volume of the 3 is interesting. The second & third are insufferable.

What kind of fool?

Notice that this was "provided by the Kansas Board of Education." I hadn't seen that before and only guessed in my review of Day 2 that they were the source.

It's yet another part of their attempt at publicity and/or make the rest of the residents of our state look like complete fools. Further "education" of our biology teachers would cost a fortune. There are no text books for them to use at our universities and colleges. And there are no text books available to students considering the first two to actually be possible.

I suspect every biology teacher in the state, if forced to comply with their "recommendation," would quit teaching and find some honest profession like selling used cars. (My apologies to any lurking used car sales personnel.) One suggestion has been made that each biology teacher be provided with five clown costumes, one for each day of the week, if something like this ever passed. That's not especially clever but is representative of the views of Kansas citizens. I daresay that this collection of political loose wing nuts hoodwinked Audible.com because of their title. In a state like California the State Board of Education has some serious responsibilitiies.

I forgot. They board does have the authority to hire or fire the secretary who takes the minuutes of their meetings. Please understand that Johnson County, KS,, where these fools largelhy come from, is one of wealthiest counties in the country. Quite a few crackpot ideas that are well financed originate in that county as a consequence. Few, if any, other candidates run any election or have any funds to be used in the election. The group of nuts that support these idiot ideas are reasonably well financed and I can count on getting a post card from at least two of them every election.

The catch phrase is: "I don't support either side and plan to keep an open mind."

What kind of fool would even say that? To gain votes? Give me a break.