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- The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters
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Irreversible Damage is an exploration of a mystery: Why, in the last decade, has the diagnosis "gender dysphoria", transformed from a vanishingly rare affliction, applying almost exclusively to boys and men, to an epidemic among teenage girls?
Author Abigail Shrier presents shocking statistics and stories from real families to show that America and the West have become fertile ground for a "transgender craze" that has nothing to do with real gender dysphoria and everything to do with our cultural frailty. Teenage girls are taking courses of testosterone and disfiguring their bodies. Parents are undermined; experts are over-relied upon; dissenters in science and medicine are intimidated; free speech truckles under renewed attack; socialized medicine bears hidden consequences; and an intersectional era has arisen in which the desire to escape a dominant identity encourages individuals to take cover in victim groups.
Every person who has ever had a skeptical thought about the sudden rush toward a non-binary future but been afraid to express it - this book is for you.
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- Bill
- 08-03-20
Some interesting points, but extremely biased
I came to this book as an open-minded, non-LGBTQ individual. A friend recommended it and asked for my opinion. So I had a listen. The overall thesis of the book is that transgenderism is a cultural and cult-like phenomenon, which is pressuring and influencing young girls to question and ultimately reject their femininity. Such a trend is exacerbated by doctors and therapists who are quick to affirm the feelings of dysphoria in these young girls and push them into life-changing treatments and surgeries. If there is any truth to this narrative, then I think it is an important and interesting subject area that merits critical discussion. It is indeed interesting that there is an increase in adolescent girls who claim to have dysphoria while seemingly showing no signs earlier in life. At times, the author does a reasonably good job of describing the difficulties of traversing such questions.
However, I have two main criticisms of the book.
One, we frankly do not know any or most of the relevant information about transgender demographics, mental health, and medical outcomes at the present moment. The author readily acknowledges this at times, yet still pushes her thesis as the only logical perspective, which I find misleading. For example, there are two statistics that the author continually references -- the fact that prevalence of transgenderism has skyrocketed in the recent past, and that often entire friend groups will "come out" as transgender together, despite the near-zero statistical likelihood of all of them being transgender based on the overall population. On its face, her argument that this is evidence of the trans identity as a cultural fad seems reasonable. However, it doesn't take a genius to think of alternative, equally likely explanations -- first, increases in transgender prevalence follows a well-understood trend in social identities as they become more accepted in society, such as homosexuality, or even left-handedness. Additionally, it is not hard to imagine that trans-identified individuals gravitate towards one another, and thus we would not expect each group of friends across the United States to have the same probability of transgenderism. The author's is a laughable argument, akin to claiming that each group of high school friends should have a near-perfect correlation with US-wide population demographics -- roughly half female, ~15% black, ~10% LGB, etc. If there are too many discrepancies, then someone must be faking! The author apparently thinks these alternative explanations are so unlikely to not even be worth a mention, but of course it is entirely likely that a young girl will go through the difficulties of *years* of medical treatments and discrimination just because she wants to fit in.
Two -- while the hypothesis that there is a cultural component of transgenderism does have some validity, the author uses this as a jumping-off point to make more transphobic and generally hurtful claims about transgenderism which have nothing to do with the main narrative of the book. For example, the author makes a point to say that she accepts dysphoria and transgenderism of some individuals, but at other points in the book claims that she doesn't believe gender can be distinct from biological sex (Ch 6, "not the ethereal concept, gender, for which there is no scientific evidence").
In the end, time will tell who is right about these things. We need more data on the percentage of people who end up desisting or detransitioning, long-term studies of people's mental health before and after transitioning, and so on. Until then, we are just speculating. I would prefer to lean in favor of trusting these people to have control over their bodies and decisions, but that's just me. It's also important to understand the societal effects that this book will have on culture and public policy. I would stress to others thinking of reading this book to take these things into account.
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- Daniel Cohen
- 07-01-20
Every parent with a trans daughter needs to read this book
I have a teen daughter who came out as trans when she was 13, with no previous indication of Dysphoria. And I’ve been totally confused about what to do, and fearful the consequences for her life and her body.
This book offers invaluable insight about what’s happening in our culture to generate these results. It’s invaluable to understanding how and why teen girls become trans. And it also lays out the brutal consequences of medically transitioning at a young age.
I wish I had this book two years ago when she first presented as trans, and changed the name her friends called her. I would have been far more prepared for what’s happened since.
However, since she’s not very far down the transition road, this book can help me and her mother mitigate much of the damage she could potentially do to herself. As well as forstall damage done to her familial relationships.
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- Amy Linenfelser
- 07-05-20
Wake up and listen!!!
Ms Shrier has been brave, forthright, fair, insightful and caring in writing a book about an epidemic running roughshod over our young girls... especially those with Autism. Everyone needs to listen and be aware of what she is telling the world. The medical community has been bullied into believing and implementing dangerous procedures, surgeries is the way to go when a child says they have gender dysphoria. Ms Shrier shows why that doesn’t work( and it doesn’t), how activists are infiltrating social media, and offers ideas of how to help your daughter escape the contagion between friends, and schools! Share with anyone who has a daughter. This is REAL!
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- Kimbertron
- 07-05-20
Insightful
A respectful and caring investigation of this craze and the potential devastating consequences. I appreciate that the author was brave enough to write this.
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- Daniel
- 07-17-20
Disturbing
I really hope this book could be written off as right wing propaganda but unfortunately it doesn’t seem like it so far. I was quite horrified by the stories and they moved me deeply.
Also, the book is fascinating and well performed.
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- mndstjohn
- 08-15-20
A necessary book
Not everyone is going to agree with the premise of this book.
That said, these stories still need to be told.
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- Tamara Hilton
- 07-26-20
heartwrenching
Timely. I bought this book because my step daughter has friends going through this and she is in the online community. I see her post stuff that I challenge her directly on
I bought two hard copies as well, one for her friend who's already taken a boy's name at 13.
the other for her birth mother so that we can have a united front on the matter.
I am horrified at this weird craze that can only lead to self destruction.
Thank you, Abigail for writing this book. it is tremendously important to save our beautiful young women
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- S.Watts
- 05-07-21
Inaccurate and offensive
Mother of a trans boy here. This book relies on generalizations and hyperbole. The process for therapy and the criteria for acceptance into a transgender program is rigorous and requires many steps. Trans kids are very different than what this book describes. They are not just going through a teenage phase, not even one that they are very dedicated to and professionals that screen them are able to determine the difference. Shame on Amazon. This book will cause further harm to the transgender community.
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- Lysol Pionex
- 07-10-20
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It was gripping the entire way through, and opened my eyes to things. Highly recommended!
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- Bella
- 07-12-20
a MUST read for all parents of young women.
we are in the beginning stage of this phenomenon. This book literally reads like she was writing about our daughter personally!!! we are in therapy as a family and with this book we are able to steer the ship with knowledge along with love.
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- Dunfermline woman
- 07-05-20
An excellent book
I’m a UK GP concerned by the huge increase in teenage girls wanting to transition, often to escape feminine stereotypes and the male gaze. This book is well researched and comprehensive.
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- Sal
- 07-10-20
The most important book of 2020
This is an insightful delve into the trans movement that is sweeping the West. Abigail Shrier uses poignant case studies to illustrate the impact this trend is having on teenage girls. She interviews older transsexuals like Buck Angel who is horrified at the medicalising of teens. She also interviews detransitioners and the parents of young trans men, grappling to understand what is happening to their daughters.
The ideology of gender identity is being pushed into schools at a rate no one was prepared for. At the same time, the medical profession is woefully letting down its patients using affirmation only therapy & encouraging young women into double mastectomies at just 18 years old.
This book must be urgently read by every parent, every school governing body, the NHS, and all corporates who are funneling money into trans youth charities.
The author is courageous in bringing this issue to light. She is no doubt endangering herself by doing so, against an angry mob trying to keep this secret in. She is a hero and this book will go down in history as a turning point in the trans movement. It can't come soon enough.
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- joseph osborne
- 11-09-20
Don't believe the negative press.
I read a lot of reviews about this book prior to listening. Most of which were extremely negative and seemed to label the author a bigot and one review which compared this to 'Mein Kampf'. All the accusations of hate and bigotry toward this book couldn't be further from the truth. It is a compassionate book that simply talks about the wider concerns of parents over their children and highlights how activist culture seems to be set up to pressure young people into decisions they are not in a particularly fit state to make. It also highlights how people are misled into thinking all these medical measures to help people to transition are reversible when the reality is they are not. The discussion over the lack of pushback from psychiatrists to claims one is trans are interesting too. It is right this book discusses the fact that maybe affirmation is not the best course of action for treating GD. most mainstream writing seem to ignore the fact that many experts on GD have spoken out against affirmation as a blanket treatment.
All in all, a very thoughtful book. Even if you disagree with the authors points, you shouldn't believe the nonsense that accuses this of being some treatise of hate. It really isn't. Highly recommend this to anyone wanting to learn more on the subject. I would like to see more from those who criticise the book actually discussing the arguments presented rather than attacking the author.
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- Dave
- 10-05-20
this is 100% accurate to what my experience is.
My child is going through this at the moment and its agonisingly painful for me as a father to witness my beautiful little girl being influenced over night by social media while it turns her into a man.
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- Ray Richard
- 05-20-21
I'm a trans woman, and I enjoyed this audiobook.
A very wise and thoughtful approach to the subject.
The write doesn't deny that there may be some people with brains like those typical of the opposite sex. It avoids the clichéd polarisation of the trans movement that many trans activists will boldly and arrogantly claim it resorts to without even reading the book.
As a trans woman, I'm fed up of wokies just blindly accepting whatever people tell others simply because they started identifying as (X) out of the blue and using post-hoc justifications to rationalise their insecurities.
Thank you for this book. It's well worth a listen. I'm glad that upon choosing to transition, I was introduced to the sceptical side of the trans movement.
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- saoirsconn96
- 07-21-20
Insightful and informative
The interviews in this book highlight the true extent of trans ideology and the damage it is inflicting on youth today. Everyone should read this book, it is brilliant.
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- Ellpeas
- 11-12-20
Essential reading (listening) for anyone raising a daughter
I very much enjoyed this audio book: it was long and I think I would have struggled if I’d tried to read it but being able to listen to it an hour at a time felt less overwhelming. It covers an enormous, difficult subject (several subjects) but (I feel) it’s imperative to know about these issues in order that I can help support and guide my daughter as she grows up.
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- forest rain mountain blossom
- 07-29-20
Our Daughter's are being duped.
This book describes the world our teen Daughters inhabit, forced to accept their Female friends as Homosexual Boys, watch their Friends sell Testosterone as a feel good product, binding an exciting journey. When our Daughter's reject their friends stories of pure ecstasy their lives/looks/knowledge of Science are shred apart by an online of army of trans allies, the Girls transing are being duped as well as duping others.
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- Naz
- 07-21-20
Incredible
This is a must read for those who think the current narrative is troubling and for those who think the woke movement is about rights issues.
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- Orin
- 10-31-20
full of things that need saying
this is a worthwhile and informative read. the writer does not have an agenda beyond the telling of the facts and lifting the lid on a toxic situation hurting young people every day
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- JA
- 08-01-20
The madness claiming young woman finally laid bare
With stunning research and vivid language the author has exposed the truth of this latest appalling movement that seeks to rob young women of their natural destiny & their rightful identity. A must read for every parent.
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- B-Chin-B
- 07-25-20
Needed and required conversation... finally
It is a struggle to find any objective information and finally an objective commentary on an ideology born from well intentioned activists. However it may have gone too far and our most loved and cherished offspring are in the thick of a civil rights and government sanctioned abuse of there minds and bodies. I hold onto hope. Thank you for this book, we all should read it. We should value our daughters right to be unencumbered by a manipulating identity ideology. I wish to write so much more! This made me tear up on every page. I really really hope for a good outcome for everyone.
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- P. Hall
- 07-15-20
Irresponsible Suppression Of an Excellent Book
As Ms Shrier has noted in a few interviews that I have heard, Amazon have inexplicably decided not to advertise this book, thereby depriving it of even marginal promotion on their website. As such an enormous literary distributor, this will likely have an enormous impact on sales - which is very unfortunate as this is an incredibly well-written account of the struggle of many young Western individuals and their families about an issue which will soon affect us all in some way.
I found this book to be extremely easy to listen to, even though the subject matter really is not at many points. The author was able to write about a difficult subject in a straightforward yet honest and open-minded manner, which I imagine was difficult. I disagree that this is a book all parents should read. I think we should ALL read it.
Brava Abigail Shrier!
I cannot recommend this book enough.
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- David
- 07-24-20
A necessary read for a troubled generation
With plenty of real word stories and thought provoking analysis Shrier pushes a more insightful understanding of the dangers of allowing teens to form their identity online. The insight and discussion is littered with practical advice and hope for the future of our daughters.
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- Amanda
- 07-24-20
For Those Concerned About The Wellbeing of Girls
Abigail Shreier’s book highlights the peril of being a troubled teenage girl in contemporary western countries where a lifetime of medical treatment and attempting to pass socially as a man or a “non binary” person (whatever that is) is being promoted as a solution to the inherent problems of being female. I hope that those in position to change this situation so that unhappy girls get effective help that allows them the possibility of a healthy future will read this book.
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- Leonie F. Murray
- 07-08-23
Invaluable information
Abigail Shrier has done an incredible job in researching and interviewing the topic of female to male gender transition. The content is filled with compassion and empathy. Pamela Almand reads the book with all that compassion and empathy. It is well worth the listen or the read.
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- Anonymous User
- 06-23-23
Great listen
This was a great listen. It was clear and logical. It was informative and with plenty of anecdotes and references to evidence. Near the end, I was in tears but then also smiling with the hopeful ending. Every mother of girls should read this.
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- Anonymous User
- 02-21-23
An important contribution
This is an extensively researched and people-centred book that manages to address the complex issues of the transgender craze with compassion and hope.
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- Anonymous User
- 02-16-23
Incredibly interesting
Very interesting especially as I was born intersex & have watched the rise of trans teenage girls with interest & concern. Great listening to such a well researched book.
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