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The Origin of Civilization

By: Scott MacEachern, The Great Courses
Narrated by: Scott MacEachern
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What defines a civilization? How did the first states emerge? How were the world's ancient states similar and different? Answer these and other dramatic questions with this grand 48-lecture course that reveals how human beings around the world transitioned from small farming communities to the impressive cultural and political systems that would alter the course of history.

Taking a gripping archaeological and historical approach to formative states such as the ancient Egyptians, the Chinese, and the Maya, Professor MacEachern completes your understanding of the history of civilization by exploring it at its earliest stages. Unlike traditional surveys of ancient civilizations, which tend to focus only on the glorious achievements of these cultures, you'll look at those first all-important steps that the world's first civilizations would take on the road to glory.

You'll investigate places such as Mesopotamia, where agriculture laid the foundation for groundbreaking experiments in social and political development in places like Uruk and Sumer; the eastern Mediterranean, where expanding maritime trade during the Bronze Age increasingly knit the different societies of these islands into a web of political and economic relationships; and Mesoamerica, where the indigenous states in and around what are now Mexico, Honduras, and Nicaragua reveal the full flowering of Olmec and Maya civilization.

You'll also take an engaging look at what archaeologists have learned from some of the world's oldest and most intriguing sites. In the end, these lectures will leave you awestruck at the diverse ways that ancient people crafted complex systems - systems whose broad strokes remain with us even today.

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Bueller....Bueller....Bueller.....

I was so excited when I got the email from Audible about The Great Courses series. I love lectures and there's a lot to choose from in this collection. I was a little bit overwhelmed by the prices, though. So I decided to pick something that I love, but would like to know more about.

As an art student in college, I learned about ancient civilizations through beautiful works they created. But I've always wanted to know more. I want to know what they wore, what they talked about, what they worried about, how they lived and what they held sacred. This lecture promised to tell me all of those things. And it did.

In the first few lectures, Scott MacEachern talks about archeological theory. It's boring and interesting at the same time. It's a tedious topic, but something that I was previously unaware of. He talks about getting away from researching grand structures and, instead, looking at how commoners lived. That's very much what I wanted to know. He also stressed that we make a mistake when we compare ancient cultures to modern. They lived and thought in completely different ways than we do. I'm not sure why, but it's very hard for me to think of it in that way, as I'm sure it is for many others, including those that study such things.

There were some things that I didn't like about this lecture series, and one thing I absolutely loved. First, dislikes. Professor MacEachern is from Canada, so I expected him to say things in a "Canadian" way, and I was willing to overlook it. What bothered me about the way he spoke is that he often used words improperly and in the wrong context. (It's been awhile since I finished listening to these lectures, so I can't think of any specifics.) If you're looking up to someone as an expert, it's disappointing when they misuse grammar in such a fundamental way. Another thing that bothered me is something that has bothered me about other lectures that I've taken in the past. Namely, lack of enthusiasm. One of my art history professors in college was soooo.... boring that no one wanted to take her class. In fact, art is the thing I love most in life, and I could barely stay awake in her class. But, if you spoke to her one on one, her passion for art was clear. She lit up. I've always wondered why people who obviously love what they're talking about, and want you to love it too, can't make the subject more enjoyable. There was a point in this lecture, near the end, when Professor MacEachern got fired up. But it was too, little too late.

Now for what I did love about it. I think that experts are often too certain of themselves and what they think. They present their ideas and things that are currently known as hard, solid fact. But the truth is, facts are relative and constantly changing as we discover new and wonderful things. It's rare and refreshing to hear someone in authority say, "This is what we know right now, but it might change as we research this topic further." I really appreciated that aspect of this lecture.

Overall, I'm satisfied with this lecture series. I learned quite a few things. But, I may wait awhile to listen to another of these lectures. Even though it didn't cost as much as an actual college course, and I could listen to them in my pajamas, they are still rather expensive.

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Not good as an intro to civilazations.

Would you say that listening to this book was time well-spent? Why or why not?

I was looking for an entry point to the study of how civilizations arose. This lecture series ended up going into significant detail about archeological methods and various early civilizations (much much more detail than I wanted). If you're looking for a basic intro to summarize basic archeology and how and in what context the major civilizations arose, this is not ideal. Though, I imagine for somebody who already has a basic understanding of ancient civilizations, this degree of detail would likely be welcomed.

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Disappointing

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I've listened to the first third of this set, and the thought of finishing the other two downloads just seems like a chore. It's really disappointing, because I LOVE this subject matter, and was looking forward to learning more about it, and in greater depth.The first several lectures revolved around archeological theory, which is fine, except that it was repetitive, dull, and didn't really add much to explain or contextualize the data that came later. When there was explanation or context, though, that actually made things worse. For example, there was far too much respect given to the influence of Karl Marx and his ideas - one would think the body count resulting from his philosophy would be enough to convince educated people that there may be some problem with his view of the human condition (a critical part of any anthropological study), but apparently not. Not only was this offensive, but it made every other conclusion or analysis proffered by the lecturer suspect.There has been some fascinating information buried in a lot of detritus, and I'm sorry those parts weren't distilled better. It might be the format - a student in a lecture hall needing to understand key points for an exam (and for building a foundation for future study in that field) probably benefit from a lot of that repetition, but it wasn't was I was looking for. I've learned FAR more (and was entertained much more, too) about these and related subjects from books such as Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel" and Charles Mann's "1491" and "1493".

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Worst Great Courses Lecture Yet.

What could have made this a 4 or 5-star listening experience for you?

Cutting the First 3 Hours. Scott repeats himself enough that pretty much anything of interest covered in those first 3 hours, is revisited again later when its more revenant.

Would you ever listen to anything by The Great Courses again?

Yes, but only because I have had several other positive experiences.

Would you be willing to try another one of Professor Scott MacEachern’s performances?

No

If you could play editor, what scene or scenes would you have cut from The Origin of Civilization?

The first 6 Chapters.

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Professor Scott MacEachern’s does not respect you or your time. The first 3 hours (6 lectures) of this course are on Archeological theory and personal anecdote. Professor Scott MacEachern knows that that students dislike how he presents this content, because he makes a Joke about it.

It's not only that the first 3 hours of this course are archeological theory, which is BARELY hinted at in the description of the course. It's that it includes a comparative the history of archeological theory with almost everything happening in the abstract.

Yes I get it the theory is important, but weave in in throughout the lecture. Introduce concepts at the same time it become relevant. Demonstrate the weakness of models in describing reality, don't just talk about them.

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by design, a less-narrative presentation.

this is about the 8th or 9th of these history oriented great courses that I have listened to. They are all wonderful in their own way and I've enjoyed them all. It was great to listen to this one after I had listened to several others, because this gave me an analytical framework for looking at the information that I had received from the other courses. It is more analytical, and less narrative, so it's different from the other courses. but I think that's a good feature and I enjoyed it. this is important subject matter and I encourage people to give it a good listen.

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Global survey finds

I was sold on this course when the first review I saw remarked--fairly--that it'd be more interesting to someone who brings some grounding in ancient history to it than to the total novice. I do recommend this lecture course if you are interested in the details of archaeological theory and the details of peoples not easily accessible in popular and audio literature. Should my reader be interested primarily in the most famous cases such as Egypt or China, Great Courses specializing in them may be well recommended, in my experience. Whereas anyone seeking specifically for bold or comprehensive theses on how and why some people invent the state might listen elsewhere.

The strength of this course is in its (2008-2009) compilation of archaeological cases. Dr. MacEachern (as well as the course guide) gives substantial attention to less popularly studied as well as to the most famous cases of "ancient" (read something akin to Before Encountering States of Other Origins) state formations. Not every region or case one could possibly expect is covered, but the ratio of breadth to depth in the survey seems quite reasonable. The inclusion of four Sub-Saharan and one South East Asian lectures, not to mention over a dozen on Meso- and South American peoples, in the 40 civilization-focused lectures are in no way to be taken for granted in surveys of world civilization! Similarly, this course is an interesting source for another "rare pick," if you will, in its his extensive discussions of the archaeological theory, its aims, methods, and limitations. I love world history and I don't know now how many comparative works I've read from how many angles: I didn't know everything here (if you did, I accuse you of being an archaeologist).

Another commendation, Dr. MacEachern's personal passion for Sub-Saharan archaeology is truly remarkable even among the compelling lecturers I've heard from the Great Courses. One hears in his voice in his African lectures, he would feel truly gratified if he did well to make his listener appreciate some of the unsung African variants of ancient civilization. I respected the depth of his conviction greatly. I believe he succeeds.

On the other hand, I think that no one shall scold Dr. MacEachern for overreaching in his conclusions. Much of the time, he seems intent to inform us what not to think as what to think. Often he's probably right to ward off unexamined biases from days gone by. But sometimes it's a little amusing that he thinks we all know enough about South East Asian historiography, say, to require lengthy convincing to stop conceptualizing it through the term 'mandala' ;)

He can make himself sound a little One Darn Thing After Another in his resistance of bringing conclusions too hastily from his data. He does argue, ultimately, that there are no simple answers to how and why states arise generally: flood plains, urbanization, distance trade in elite goods, specialist non-food-producers and social stratification, intensive agriculture, starchy crops, and numerous other phenomena MAY be associated with early states. But Dr. MacEachern's survey finds that none is present in EVERY case, and so none is necessary, and no general explanation of the causation of states is anticipated. Amusingly, it would appear that the one thing we can count on archaeologists' finding in early states is a budding ideology to justify the state; this, though archaeologists have rather a hard time digging up ideologies.

All told, if you want to hear the very diverse descriptions of numerous famous and "rarer" early civilizations, with intellectually honest and careful attention paid to the limitations of archaeological theory, listen up!

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I was disappointed

What could have made this a 4 or 5-star listening experience for you?

I would have liked it more if there wasn't so much archeology in it. If the professor narrarating it would pause his words at the right time (he spoke like William Shatner, with a tedious Canadian accent). I would have tolerated the parts of the lecture that had little to do with the title of the book if he spoke normal.

Would you ever listen to anything by The Great Courses again?

Absolutely! This one should have been done by someone better. The lecture went off track. It should be reorganized,

Would you be willing to try another one of Professor Scott MacEachern’s performances?

Hell No!

You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

Only the promise of learning about the origin of civilization.

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Please refund me for this.

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history or hot takes?

this was about 2% archeology info and 98% this dude's postmodern hot takes and feigned impartiality.

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A waste of time.

10 chapters of what amounts to a basic 101 intro to History is painful to listen to. Reiterating the same concepts over and over without any actual history. It’s more a thesis’s on what history is rather then describing actual history. What makes it unacceptable is that when finally gets to the histories. He jumps straight to cultures of southern Mesopotamia. He doesn’t add any info that isn’t readily available from a 1st read of Wikipedia’s page on the subject. The most frustrating issue is that he doesn’t actually try to explain how civilizations emerged from the ice age or the flood. Jumping right into Egypt. It’s well documented that agriculture and animal husbandry started in the steppe. But he doesn’t even mention the Steppe. After 2 hours I had to accept I was tricked into purchasing a 8th grade history lecture. I did not finish the the book because it was giving me anxiety.

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Skip this course

I love the great courses; however, this one was incredibly boring and the explanations were difficult for me to engage in. With 17 hours remaining, and unable to endure a minute more, I stopped.

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