In Episode 411 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Shehzad Qazi of China Beige Book about the impact Trump’s China tariffs are having on the U.S. and Chinese economies and prospects for a grand bargain.

Demetri and Shehzad discuss:

• The material impact that the trade war has had thus far on both economies

• The companies and sectors most likely to be impacted, as well as those best positioned to weather the storm

• The respective performance of each country’s currency and stock market

• Explanations for the punctuated sell-off in U.S. Treasuries

• China’s action plan to revitalize domestic consumption

Demetri also asks Shehzad about Trump’s stated desire to “do a deal with China,” what such a deal would look like, how big it could be, and what concessions either side is prepared to make in order to get it done.

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Episode Recorded on 04/16/2025

In Episode 410 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with investors Paulo Macro and Le Shrub about the consequences of a breakdown in the international capital and trading system—and what this means for markets and investor portfolios.

The first hour revisits last year’s discussion on “EM-ification,” the breakdown of the rules-based global order, and the urgent search for a new safe asset in a world of deteriorating fiscal balance sheets. Together, Demetri, Paulo, and Le Shrub map out what investors should be paying attention to in the year ahead.

In the second hour, the conversation turns to the implications of a full-blown trade and capital war, including:

• The impact on U.S. assets—especially Treasuries and the dollar—if surplus nations redirect their capital flows away from the United States

• Resurgent inflation fueled by strategic rearmament and industrial policy

• A potential decoupling from—and even a hot war with—China

• The abandonment of fiscal restraint in the face of an economic slowdown amid persistently high or rising borrowing costs for the U.S. government

• The risk of massive wealth destruction triggered by a dramatic revaluation of the U.S. dollar

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Episode Recorded on 04/15/2025

Demetri Kofinas and Grant Williams have teamed up to launch “The One Hundred Year Pivot,” a new podcast series that explores the once-in-a-century economic, political, and geopolitical reordering currently underway. These transformational changes demand that we develop new maps and investment frameworks to help us navigate the challenges ahead.

Over the course of the series, Grant and Demetri will be speaking with the smartest and most plugged-in people they know to help us chart a path through this gathering storm and position ourselves, our organizations, our families, and our portfolios for the changes to come.

You are invited to join them on this journey as they explore the implications of:

1. The breakdown of existing political, monetary, and social institutions

2. The emergence of new economic and financial trading blocks

3. The reprioritization of national and economic security

4. The channeling of national savings into a new military and technological arms race

5. The development of a new investment paradigm with historic implications for investors

Premium subscribers to the Hidden Forces podcast and the Grant Williams Podcast will have early access to the episodes in this ongoing series.

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Episode Recorded on 04/08/2025