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Police Social Workers are not a new concept but until now there's not been a nationwide standard for how they are trained or how they are employed alongside police officers. Caroline Ban teaches at Valparaiso University and she has started the first public safety social work certificate program in the nation for people who have their masters in social work or are getting their MSW. Caroline talks about the how social workers can add something valuable to the police team that I know you'll appreciate.

Music is by Chris Haugen

Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 137

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Social Workers, Co-responders, Education, Embedding, Mental Health, Officer Wellness, Police, Professor, Training, University, St. Louis, Valparaiso, Indiana, Missouri

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This is a special bonus episode of Hey Chaplain recorded on site in New Orleans, Louisiana, at the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) Officer Safety and Wellness Conference. Chaplain Phil Reeves from the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department was my partner in giving a presentation on embedding chaplains. We recorded that talk and the Q&A that followed and I want to give you a few select cuts of what we did. I also had the opportunity to hang out with some chaplains from California, Massachusetts, Colorado, and other states, so I'm going to throw in a few clips of those police chaplains saying hi to the Hey Chaplain audience.

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Hey Chaplain Bonus Episode 49

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Chaplaincy, Chaplains, Culture, Embedding, Expectations, IACP, Leadership, Podcasting, Police, Relationships, Standards, Kansas City, New Orleans, California, Colorado, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts

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How do you know when to call it quits, especially if you're in the first half of your career? It's incredibly difficult to give blanket advice because everyone and everyone's circumstances are unique and constantly changing. For some officers, the best advice is wait a moment for the storm to pass. For other officers it's time or maybe past time to get out.

Today we're talking to former deputy Josh Lively. Josh started a promising career in law enforcement but soon discovered this might not be the career that fulfills his calling in life. We're going to talk about the process of figuring out what to do when you're miserable as a police officer. What does that mean? How do you know what decision to make? How far do you push it before you need to eject?

My guess is that every police officer can sympathize with what you're going to hear Josh say. But there are going to be distinct camps of listeners to this episode. Those who hear Josh's story and recognize it as their own. And those who don't. But I hope you listen to Josh's wisdom on this matter because we all know cops who need to stay and others for whom it is time to go.

Josh's podcast is called the "Practically Christian Podcast"

Music is by Chris Haugen and by Winking Fox

Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 136

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Career, Calling, Chaplain, Decision Making, Depression, Faith, Family, Health, Mental Health, Ministry, Police, Quitting, Sheriff Deputy, Support, Florida

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This is Part 2 of our interview with Dennis Kleyh, Jr. Part 1 was about defensive tactics and the differences in mindsets between veterans and the police recruits who have never been punched in the face. But in putting that episode together, I was left with an equal portion of the interview where Dennis talked about his careers in the Marine Corps and law enforcement. Military careers and law enforcement careers can seem pretty random. It's only the recruiters who have a clear idea of what your future will be like, your actual mileage may vary. But right here is some interesting wisdom, for good or ill, you don't know exactly where your military or police service may take you. So let's use Dennis' story to look at that.

CORRECTION: After I finished the first episode I discovered that I made a mistake, Dennis said Fourth Recon and I said Force Recon, and over the internet, neither of us heard the difference. But I should have double checked, especially since it's clear as a bell now that I listen back to it. Sorry about that!

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Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 135 Part 2

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Career, Leadership, Marines, Military Service, Police, Training, USMC, Veterans, Missouri, Afghanistan, Iraq

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How would a defensive tactics class in the police academy be different for a combat veteran than for someone without that experience? Today's guest Dennis Kleyh. Sgt Major Kleyh spent 30 years with the Marine Corps and is now a police captain, with over twenty years of teaching defensive tactics in both settings. Today we talk about how the combat mindset is different than policing and why some people have trouble regaining control when the things get real. We talk about how to train people who have never been in a fight before and why we all might benefit if some people were just punched in the face.

Music is by National Sweetheart and by Chris Haugen

Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 135

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Police, Calm, Defensive Tactics, Discipline, EID, Instructors, Leadership, Marines, Military Service, Self-Control, Training, USMC, Use of Force, Veterans, Missouri, Afghanistan, Iraq

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This quarterly update episode looks at the Chaplaincy resolution from the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP). Police Chief Jim Sutterby is our special guest host today.

Jim was previously featured on episodes 003, 007, and 041.

The IACP site that lists this resolution is https://www.theiacp.org/resolutions

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Hey Chaplain Update Episode 1Q 2026

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IACP, Chaplaincy Programs, Chaplains, Conferences, Law Enforcement, Police, Policies, Resolution, Standards, Wellness, New Orleans, Louisiana

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We can't control everything in police culture and we certainly can't control how outsiders talk about police, but we can control our attitudes and our end of the relationships within the department. Today's guest is Eric Tung, a police commander and the host of the podcast Blue Grit Radio. Eric wants to talk about the empathy or lack thereof that exists between officers and between the officers and commanders. How they communicate better and how each member of the team work to make the team better, regardless of outside influences.

Eric's website: bluegritwellness.com and find Eric Tung on LinkedIn

Music is by Wes Hutchinson

Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 134

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Police, Communication, Culture, Empathy, K9, Leadership, Loss, Nihilism, Peer Support, Podcast, Teamwork, Wellness, Seattle, Washington

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This is a special bonus episode I'm calling the Pursuit Channel; here you can listen in to the excerpts of Hey Chaplain interviews that get cut for time or strayed off topic but are still worth a listen. In this episode I also talk about where I'll be IRL this year.

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Hey Chaplain Bonus Episode 48

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Police, Addiction, Chaplains, Conferences, Podcasting, Purpose, Support, Kansas City, New Orleans, Spokane, Kansas, Louisiana, Washington

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