AI adoption is outpacing governance at every level, and the cost of waiting is getting higher by the day. Guru Sethupathy, General Manager of AI Governance at Optro and former Founder of FairNow, breaks down what it really takes to build trust in AI systems before things go sideways.

Guru lays out a simple but powerful 3 P’s Framework: policies, process, and people, connecting it to what teams are actually dealing with right now, from shadow AI to security threats that don’t look like anything we’ve seen before.

If 2026 is the year AI moves from experiments to real operations, this conversation is your blueprint for keeping it under control.

Impactful Moments 00:00 - Introduction 02:25 - What does Optro do? Helping companies with the AI governance journey. 03:10 - Why AI governance is really about trust, not control 05:15 - The moment AI went mainstream, and why that changed everything 05:50 - The three real business risks: performance, security, and transparency 07:30 - Human accountability in an AI-driven world 08:48 - What’s actually happening with AI regulation, EU, US, and standards 10:28 - Where Optro fits, orchestration vs monitoring in AI governance 13:05 - The 3 Ps framework: policies, process, and people 14:47 - Governance 101, why AI inventory is the first move every team misses 16:12 - The reality check, AI adoption is outpacing governance everywhere 17:45 - Shadow AI explained, what your team is doing that you can’t see 19:45 - Optro’s top use cases: visibility, compliance, and operationalizing governance 20:43 - Who owns AI governance, and why it’s becoming a team sport 22:20 - Final advice, start now or play catch-up later

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What happens when attackers collaborate better than defenders?

Recorded live from RSAC 2026, this solo episode with Ron breaks down the biggest themes shaping cybersecurity right now, from organized threat groups and massive data breaches to the growing tension between productivity and control inside modern organizations.

This conversation highlights a hard truth. The threat landscape is evolving through collaboration. From phishing-as-a-service platforms like Tycoon 2FA to supply chain breaches impacting entire ecosystems, attackers are sharing tools and moving faster than ever.

But there’s another side to the story. As AI becomes embedded in how work gets done, security teams are being pushed to rethink their role. Blocking tools is no longer enough. The real challenge is enabling the business while managing risk, and that requires trust, alignment, and a stronger sense of community across the industry.

This episode is a call to rethink how we approach security. Not as isolated teams enforcing policy, but as a connected community working together to adapt, respond, and move forward.

Impactful Moments 00:00 - Introduction, live from RSAC 2026 02:50 - Tycoon2FA and the rise of phishing-as-a-service 04:45 - The TELUS breach and what a petabyte-scale attack looks like 06:21 - Why you need strict controls … everywhere 07:30 - Are AI agents the new Shadow IT? 09:00 - The balance between productivity and security controls 09:27 - Boards’ demands for their teams to use AI 11:53 - Why leading security teams is more like parenting than policing 12:42 - Community is the foundation for the future of cybersecurity

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What does it mean when your smart doorbell becomes an entry point for surveillance? What happens when a single hacker can jailbreak every major AI model within hours of its release? And why are the same tools being used by both nation-state attackers and the defenders trying to stop them?

In this solo episode, Ron Eddings breaks down the urgent case for practitioner unity in cybersecurity, from AI-powered jailbreaking and IoT surveillance creep to geopolitical cyber operations. With RSAC 2026 just around the corner, this episode is a rallying cry for the community to come together, share intelligence, and build the defenses that no single team can build alone.

The episode also tackles one of the biggest misconceptions in the industry right now. AI already came for your job, but now it is changing how we define responsibility, decision-making, and trust. Add in rising pressure across the workforce, new legislation pushing for human oversight, and real-world examples of AI being used in global conflict, and the stakes become hard to ignore.

Impactful Moments 00:00 - Introduction 02:00 - Pliny the Elder, God Mode and AI Jailbreaks 03:30 - Cyber in US-Israeli Operations in Iran and Anthropic Tensions 06:00 - Cyber threats that are hitting normal people 07:30 - Is my Ring Doorbell a surveillance risk? 10:05 - Attackers are collaborating and sharing more than defenders today 11:30 - RSAC: the cyber Super Bowl 14:30 - AI has already replaced your job 14:30 - Why mental health is cybersecurity's hidden crisis 17:00 - Governance in AI and what Texas is doing about it 19:00 - Was Claude used in state-level ops?

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