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"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
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Dr. Carli Anderson continues to examine Genesis 18-23 through Hebrew textual analysis, reframing Sarah, Hagar, and Abraham as parallel figures of faith whose choices, trials, and covenant roles reveal deeper layers of wisdom, agency, and trust in God’s promises.

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TIMECODE:

• 00:00 Part 2 - Dr. Carli Anderson
• 01:05 Midrash: What made Sarah laugh?
• 03:04 Reframing Hagar
• 05:57 Isaac is born and Ishamael needs a wife
• 06:59 Trying to understand “mocking”
• 08:07 New understanding of a very difficult verse
• 10:54 Move the boys so they both inherit
• 14:39 God tells us Sarah was right
• 16:06 Sarah willing to do the difficult things
• 18:21 Hagar’s desert expertise explains Ishamael’s posterity
• 24:44 Hagar as hero
• 27:15 Three stories, Three sources of hope
• 29:32 Parallels to the Savior
• 33:33 Hineni
• 35:08 Only son means unity between father and son
• 39:08 The beauty revealed in the Hebrew
• 42:40 What is Isaac thinking?
• 45:05 Isaac’s willingness
• 48:50 A raised knife
• 50:31 God loves a photo finish
• 55:09 Story for three major religions
• 56:53 Word play that points to Jesus Christ
• 1:00:47 The importance of Mount Moriah
• 1:04:24 End of Part 2 - Dr. Carli Anderson

Thanks to the followHIM team:
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Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
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What happens when we read the stories of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar through an ancient lens instead of modern assumptions? Dr. Carli Anderson joins hosts Hank Smith and John Bytheway to explore the legal, and linguistic depth of these foundational narratives, revealing Sarah’s majesty, Hagar’s complexity, and the deeply personal, covenant-centered relationship God forms with each of them.

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TIMECODE:

• 00:00 Part 1 - Dr. Carli Anderson
• 01:31 Episode Teaser
• 03:56 Bio
• 05:12 Come, Follow Me Manual
• 06:58 Every word matters and word play
• 09:29 Hebrew acrostic poetry
• 10:14 Cultural weight of Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar
• 13:09 Reframing Sarah
• 17:29 Sarah in Egypt
• 20:02 Story repeats
• 21:35 Sarah seen as royalty
• 23:11 Sarah makes a decision
• 27:51 The position of trusted servants
• 30:28 A real tragedy, it seems
• 33:51 What Hagar knows
• 38:36 Not knowing what is on the next page
• 39:35 Ancient family lines defined
• 42:03 Three transformative stories
• 43:39 A sister’s similar experience with the Lord
• 46:09 Hugh B. Brown’s experience with the Gardener
• 51:37 Sarah keeps the faith (loyalty + courage)
• 54:26 Sarah as queen
• 56:54 Dramatic irony with the binding of Isaac
• 1:00:06 Parallel laughing
• 1:04:04 The Lord specializing in the “impossible”
• 1:06:27 Archetypal story
• 1:08:54 “Jesus’s dumb idea”
• 1:13:04 End of Part 1 - Dr. Carli Anderson

Thanks to the followHIM team:
Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor
David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors
Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host
John Bytheway: Co-host
David Perry: Producer
Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor
Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes
Will Stoughton: Video Editor
Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website
Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts
Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts
Heather Barlow: Communications Director
Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design

"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald
https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com