Jackie: On the web | On Instagram // Courtney: On the web | On Instagram

In this episode, I sit down with my friend Courtney to have an honest, unfiltered conversation about what it really looks like to let go of control and begin allowing yourself to be seen.

Courtney is an Enneagram 8—strong, decisive, and deeply protective. But like so many 8s, that strength didn’t come out of nowhere. It was built over time as a way to stay safe, stay ahead, and avoid being hurt.

What we explore in this conversation is what happens when that strength stops working the same way it used to.

This isn’t a polished story of arrival. It’s a real-time look at becoming.

This episode gently explores the shift from:

• Self-protection → Connection
• Control → Trust
• Armor → Access

Not by forcing change… but by increasing awareness.

Even if you’re not an Enneagram 8, this conversation will likely hit somewhere personal. Because at the core, this isn’t just about type—it’s about the human experience of protecting yourself, staying guarded, and slowly learning it might be safe to let someone in

You don’t have to force yourself to change. But you can begin to notice. And sometimes, that awareness is the very thing that starts to shift everything.

You’re not behind. You’re becoming.

In this episode, I'm sharing a personal and honest look at what it means to let go of patterns that once served a purpose, but are now holding you back.

Through the lens of the Enneagram and lifespan development, this conversation explores how our identities are shaped over time through protection, adaptation, and meaning-making. What once helped us feel safe, loved, or accepted can quietly become the very thing that limits our growth.

I'm opening up about my own experience of reaching a breaking point at 40—realizing I had unintentionally placed myself on a shelf—and the emotional process of taking responsibility, grieving what was lost, and stepping into a more aligned life.

This episode is not about fixing yourself. It’s about recognizing what no longer serves you… and beginning, gently, to let it go.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How personality patterns are formed across the lifespan
• Why letting go often feels disorienting, not freeing
• The connection between protection, identity, and the Enneagram
• What it looks like to take responsibility for your own becoming
• A reflective invitation to help you identify where you may be holding yourself back

This episode also introduces a new series featuring real conversations with different Enneagram types as they share their own process of letting go and becoming.

Jackie: On the web | On Instagram

In this deeply personal and powerful conversation, Jackie sits down with Ro Elliot to explore a journey of healing, identity, and transformation that didn’t fully begin until age 58.

Ro is an Enneagram coach passionate about helping women—especially in midlife transitions—rediscover who they are beyond the roles they’ve carried.

Ro shares her story of growing up with deep insecurity, navigating disorganized attachment, walking through chronic illness, and discovering the Enneagram later in life. Together, Jackie and Ro unpack how attachment, faith, and inner work intersect—and why it is never too late to come home to yourself.

This episode is for anyone who feels like they’ve lived most of their life for others… and are just now beginning to ask, “Who am I?”

If you feel like you’ve spent years showing up for everyone else…
this episode is your invitation to gently turn toward yourself.

Nothing about you is too late.
Nothing about your story is wasted.

You are still becoming.

Jackie: On the web | On Instagram

Ro: On the web | On Instagram