Naomi Ishizaka, columnist with The Seattle Times breaks down her sit-down with Seattle Mayor Katie Wilson, offering a clear look at how the city’s leadership is navigating public safety, inequality, and community demands.

The conversation highlights a more nuanced, listening-driven approach to governance and what it means for communities of color facing real, everyday pressures.

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In this episode, JJ Green speaks with William H. Lamar IV, pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church and author of Ancestors, about how the past continues to shape power, identity, and decision-making today.

Lamar makes a compelling case that our ancestors are not behind us—they are active, influencing everything from politics to personal belief.

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Melissa Hellmann, senior reporter on the Guardian US's race and equity team joins us to update us on the top stories related to race in U.S., her travels and her career. And she's give us some thoughts about race in America, right now.

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