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CEOAFTERDARK

CEOAFTERDARK

By: George Kapernaros
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Ever wonder what drives a CEO when nobody's watching? Every Thursday, tune into the CEOAFTERDARK podcast to hear a raw conversation with a hyper-successful business owner. Your host, George Kapernaros, is the CEO of YOCTO, a leading e-commerce CRM agency. Now, he's focused on getting to know these leaders as real people. We're talking about the ups and downs they don't usually share. You'll hear about their personal challenges, their big wins, and everything in between. It's not just about their successes, but also the tough times and what keeps them going. This podcast is perfect for anyone curious about what it takes to run a successful online business. Whether you're dreaming of starting your own company, already running one, or just love a good success story, these chats are for you. So, grab your headphones and join us on CEOAFTERDARK. It's where the real stories of e-commerce leaders come to light – the stuff they only talk about after hours.© 2025 George Kapernaros Economics
Episodes
  • Why Case Studies Are Your Agency’s #1 Growth Tool (Don’t Make This Mistake) Retention Clarity Gap #4
    Aug 29 2025

    Most agencies undervalue case studies — and we were guilty of the same mistake. In this episode, George Kapernaros and Mo break down why case studies are your trust currency, how they directly impact your sales cycle, and why every single client engagement should lead to a documented success story.

    You’ll learn:

    Why not publishing case studies is “the most insane mistake” an agency can make

    How case studies lower the effort needed to close new clients

    The simple before & after framework that makes case studies persuasive

    How to structure contracts so you can actually publish your work

    Why you should create multiple case studies per client, not just one

    What to do if you’re starting out and don’t have results yet

    Whether you’re an agency owner, freelancer, or consultant — this episode will show you how to leverage your wins into future growth.

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    25 mins
  • The Subscription Growth Playbook: Acquisition, Retention & Community Building | Matthew Holman
    Aug 27 2025

    In this episode of The CEOAFTERDARK, I sit down with Matthew Holman – the founder of Subscription Prescription, to unpack what it really takes to build, scale, and retain a profitable subscription business.

    We dive deep into:

    -How to choose the right subscription tech stack (without bias)
    -Why acquisition is the real driver of retention – and how to fix yours
    -Proven onboarding flows that cut churn in half
    -The art of testing subscription offers for maximum LTV
    -Building engaged communities that power your brand long-term

    Whether you’re running E-Commerce, SaaS, or subscription boxes, this conversation is loaded with actionable strategies you can implement today.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction to Subscription Wizardry
    03:02 Navigating Subscription Technologies
    05:58 The Importance of Acquisition in Subscriptions
    09:00 Retention Strategies and Subscriber Engagement
    11:59 Auditing Subscription Businesses
    15:08 Testing Offers and Optimizing Retention
    18:01 Building a Community Around Subscriptions
    26:46 Future Aspirations in Subscription Consulting


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    37 mins
  • Retention Clarity Gap #3 | The Future of Retention Marketing: Why Most Agencies Will Fail by 2025
    Jul 13 2025

    Most retention agencies are stuck in 2020—still thinking retention means “send more emails.” In this episode of the Retention Clarity Gap podcast, Mo and George Kapernaros (Founder of Yocto) break down why this thinking is dead.

    They unpack:
    – Why production is no longer a moat (thanks to AI & platforms like Klaviyo)
    – The collapse of “service market fit” for average agencies
    – Why the real future of retention lies in strategic decision-making, not email volume
    – How Yocto is scaling by hiring problem-solvers, not button-pushers
    – What “Strategy Activation” means and why it’s replacing outdated audits
    – The new model for high-retention, high-impact client relationships

    If you're an eCom founder, marketer, or agency owner—this is your wake-up call.

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    🔔 Subscribe for more sharp takes on the future of retention.

    ▶ LinkedIn: https:/https://www.linkedin.com/company/george-kapernaros/

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    35 mins
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