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  • Episode 505 Navigating 2025 Agency Trends with Drew and Danyel Newcom McLellan
    Jun 9 2025

    Welcome to a special solocast episode of Build a Better Agency! In this midyear trend report, hosts Drew McLellan and Danyel Newcom McLellan dig deep into the evolving landscape facing agency owners in 2025. Leveraging data, global industry perspectives, and hands-on agency experience, Drew and Danyel break down what’s really impacting agencies right now and what to keep your eye on as the year unfolds.

    This episode covers the biggest drivers reshaping the agency world—from economic and political disruptions to shifting client and employee expectations. Drew and Danyel explore findings from the 2025 Edelman Trust Barometer, including the global “crisis of grievance,” and detail the unique opportunities and obligations business leaders face as the most trusted type of institution. They reveal how financial trends, M&A activity, and even compensation expectations are shifting, providing a realistic look at growth, profitability, and future planning.

    You’ll also hear a candid analysis of client dynamics and new business trends: increased buyer skepticism and demand for transparency, shorter contract terms, and the rising importance of social proof and niche expertise in attracting and retaining accounts. Internally, the episode explores changing workforce norms, a renewed focus on employee development and mental health, and innovative staffing strategies to increase agility and resilience.

    Rounding out the conversation, Drew and Danyel highlight where agencies are finding success—including the explosive impact of AI, new roles like creative technologists, the resurgence of retro campaigns, and the growing power of influencer and creator marketing. Whether you’re preparing your agency for exit, acquisition, or simply striving to thrive during uncertain times, this action-packed episode provides practical, actionable insights to help you build a stronger, more sustainable business. Don’t miss the chance to regroup, refocus, and get energized for what’s ahead!

    A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here.

    What You Will Learn in This Episode:
    • Navigating economic and political uncertainty in agency operations
    • Building and maintaining trust with clients and employees
    • Shifting trends in agency growth, profitability, and M&A activity
    • The rising importance of transparency and authenticity with clients
    • Harnessing outside validation and social proof for new business
    • Leveraging innovation, partnerships, and flexible team structures
    • Embracing AI and data-driven insights as core agency strengths
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    1 h y 4 m
  • Episode 504 Explore the Findings of the 2025 Agency Edge Research with Susan Baier
    Jun 2 2025

    Welcome to a timely episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined by research partner Susan Baier from Audience Audit to unveil the results of the 2025 Agency Edge Research, fresh from its debut at the Build a Better Agency Summit. Together, they dig deep into how agency clients really feel about artificial intelligence—where they’re embracing it, where they’re hesitant, and what they truly want from their agency partners as AI becomes an ever-more central part of the marketing landscape.

    Susan and Drew break down the study’s findings, revealing surprising good news for agencies: most clients are not only comfortable with agencies using AI, they actually want their agencies to be transparent and step up as guides and educators in the new AI-driven world. The episode introduces the three client mindsets the research uncovered—AI Embracers, AI Skeptics, and AI Opportunists—exploring what each group wants, fears, and expects when it comes to agency use of AI. Along the way, Susan shares eye-opening data that challenges common agency fears, like the myth that all clients want to replace agencies with tech or are solely focused on cost savings. .

    Drew and Susan discuss practical, actionable opportunities for agency leaders to build trust, grow their strategic value, and tap into new revenue streams by leading client conversations about AI. They emphasize key client desires: greater transparency around AI use, expert guidance on tools and applications, and clear communication about regulations and risk. You’ll also hear why clients view agency guidance on AI as an entry point not just for marketing, but for broader organizational needs—a potential seat at the coveted strategy table.

    Don’t miss this episode if you want to stay a step ahead in the evolving AI landscape. You’ll come away with not only a clear understanding of what your clients are thinking, but with actionable ways to strengthen your agency’s position, open new doors, and create deeper, more trusted partnerships in the age of AI.

    A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here.
    What You Will Learn in This Episode:

      • Exploring client attitudes toward agency use of AI
      • The critical roles of transparency and trust in agency-client relationships
      • Breaking down three client mindsets: AI embracers, skeptics, and opportunists
      • The growing expectation for agencies to be AI guides, not just service providers
      • Why most clients value better results—not just lower fees—from AI adoption
      • Addressing client concerns and opportunities through open AI conversations
      • Action steps for agencies to become indispensable AI partners
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    49 m
  • Episode 503 Mastering the Creative Brief with Pieter-Paul von Weiler and Matt Davies
    May 26 2025

    Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined by Matt Davies and Pieter-Paul von Weiler, the strategist duo behind the Better Briefs Project, to tackle one of the most persistent and frustrating challenges agencies face: the elusive art of creating a truly effective brief. If you’ve ever struggled with unclear objectives, misaligned expectations, or wasted rounds of creative development, this episode is packed with data-driven answers and practical solutions.

    Drawing on global research from over 1,700 marketers and agency professionals across 70 countries, Matt and Pieter-Paul share eye-opening findings about the wide gap between what clients think they’re delivering in a brief and what agencies are actually receiving. They break down the staggering disconnect—like the fact that 78% of marketers believe their briefs offer clear strategic direction, while only 5% of agencies agree—and explore the ripple effect this misalignment has on wasted budgets, morale, and creative outcomes.

    Drew leads a discussion on why so many briefs fall short, what really constitutes a great brief, and how both agencies and clients can step up to improve the process. You’ll hear actionable advice on teaching clients the value of a well-crafted brief, initiating honest conversations before a live project starts, and creating custom templates that actually work for both sides. Plus, Matt and Pieter-Paul draw on their extensive agency experience to explain the difference between client briefs and creative briefs, and how agencies can strategically refine incoming briefs for stronger creative results.

    Whether you’re an agency owner, account executive, or creative lead, don’t miss this episode if you’re ready to reclaim lost time, reduce budget waste, and build stronger partnerships with your clients around the brief-writing process. By the end, you’ll feel equipped to have more candid, constructive conversations and ensure every campaign starts with clarity and purpose. Head over to betterbriefs.com for more resources and get ready to produce your agency’s best work yet!

    A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here.

    What You Will Learn in This Episode:

      • Understanding the disconnect between marketers and agencies when it comes to briefs
      • Why most briefs lack clear objectives, strategic direction, and alignment
      • The business impact of poor briefs—including wasted budgets and extra rework
      • How agencies can proactively educate clients and improve the briefing process
      • The difference between client marketing briefs and agency creative briefs
      • The importance of partnership and communication in crafting great ideas
      • Practical steps to help clients (and agencies) write better, more effective briefs
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    49 m
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This is the ONLY business Podcast that I listen to on a regular basis. I have owned my Agency for over 30 years and I still walk away from nearly every episode with some new nugget of wisdom. I've shared the Podcast with my leadership team who listen to it often and my comments stemming from the show are so frequent it has become an inside joke when I begin a sentence with; "I was listening to my Agency Podcast the other day and they said..." If you own or run a marketing agency, you owe it to yourself to give this Podcast a listen.

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