NBS #110: You’re Not Lazy, You’re Overloaded: The Toxic Five Explained with Dr. Evan Hirsch

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In this episode of Never Been Sicker, Michael Rubino sits down with Dr. Evan Hirsch to break down what he calls the “Toxic Five,” the root drivers he sees behind long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome: heavy metals, chemicals, molds, infections, and nervous system dysfunction (trauma).

Dr. Hirsch explains where common exposures come from (including mercury from dental fillings and higher mercury levels in larger fish), why toxic burden can start before birth, and how chemicals and plastics accumulate over time. He also shares why testing can be imperfect and why relying too heavily on labs can leave people stuck, plus what he believes actually moves the needle when someone has chronic fatigue or long COVID symptoms.

They also dive into mold, why proper remediation matters, and why incomplete remediation can keep people in a cycle of re-exposure and stalled progress.

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Toxic Five
02:53 Understanding Heavy Metals and Their Sources
05:47 Chemical Exposures and Their Impact
09:01 Nervous System Dysfunction and Trauma
11:56 The Role of Infections in Chronic Illness
15:10 The Importance of Testing and Treatment
18:07 The Impact of Mold on Health
21:12 The Process of Mold Remediation
23:48 Chronic Fatigue and Its Assessment
26:55 The Energy MD Program Overview
30:05 Mindset and Its Role in Healing
33:11 Conspiracies and Truths in Medicine
36:05 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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🔵 About Evan H. Hirsch, MD
Evan H. Hirsch, MD, also known as EnergyMD, specializes in helping people with Long COVID and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) resolve their symptoms naturally so they can get back to living their best lives. After recovering from his own five-year battle with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, he created the EnergyMD Method, a research-informed and clinically tested four-step process that addresses the “Toxic Five,” the real root causes of fatigue. Through his best-selling book, podcast, and virtual program serving clients across the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, and New Zealand, Dr. Hirsch has helped thousands of people regain their energy and return to the activities they love. He has been featured on TV, podcasts, and summits, and when he is not supporting clients, you can find him singing musicals, dancing hip hop, learning languages, and traveling with his family.

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🔵 Free Fix Your Fatigue Book: https://www.energymdmethod.com/freebook

His Website:
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His Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/evanhirschmd/
His YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/EvanHHirschMD

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