Episodios

  • BTW EP 29: The Phil-Ins: Confront the Data Delusion
    Apr 15 2026

    "What you think of as the data isn't the right data."

    This observation from FineTune COO Brian Gamble shines an (uncomfortable) spotlight on one of procurement's biggest challenges: AI has the potential to completely transform the function (in a good way) and drive a significant amount of value for the business, but only if organizations first acknowledge how inadequate their current data actually is.

    In the twenty-ninth episode of "Buy: The Way...To Purposeful Procurement," Philip Ideson, Rich Ham, and Kelly Barner reflect on recent conversations with procurement tech pioneer Jason Busch and category expert Brian Gamble. They explore the troubling reality that procurement's future with AI depends almost completely on having the right data, while most organizations don't even know what the right data looks like.

    This conversation exposes the gap between what practitioners call "the data" and what actually constitutes useful information for decision-making. Invoice details, contracts housed in various systems, and perhaps some quarterly business review reports make up most of what the average procurement professional considers their data foundation.

    Suppliers have systematically reduced invoice transparency over the years, removing fields that enabled auditing, all under the guise of creating "easier to read" formats, and procurement is left to deal with the fallout.

    The episode also connects back to Buylaws 5 and 6, prioritizing comprehensive high-quality data and developing expense-specific systems of measurement, while simultaneously setting up the next conversation about how compensation models and hiring practices must evolve for procurement's uncertain future.

    Links:
    Rich Ham on LinkedIn
    Learn more at FineTuneUs.com

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    29 m
  • 861: Procurement Under Pressure: Disruption, AI, and the New Operating Model W/ Amit Mahajan and Jon Jensen
    Apr 13 2026

    "Change is the only constant today. Disruption is happening more frequently, and procurement has to be ready for the unknown." - Jon Jensen, Partner & Managing Director, AlixPartners

    Procurement leaders are facing more disruption, pressure, and technology change than ever before. Resilience, agility, and the smart use of AI are now table stakes, but only a handful of teams are turning these shifts into real business advantage.

    How are the best-in-class CPOs getting ahead?

    In this episode, Amit Mahajan and Jon Jensen, Partners at AlixPartners, reveal insights from the 2026 CPO Executive Insights Report. They share how top teams are shifting from a cost focus to value creation, why indirect procurement is becoming a growth engine, and what's really holding back AI adoption in procurement.

    You'll also hear practical guidance on balancing quick AI wins with long-term ROI, and how leaders make disruption work for them instead of against them.

    In this episode, Amit and Jon cover:

    • The core disruptions shaping CPO priorities in 2026
    • Approach AI adoption with practical use cases, not expectations for perfection
    • Engage suppliers and stakeholders with new strategies

    Links:

    • 2026 CPO Executive Insights Report
    • Amit Mahajan on LinkedIn
    • Jon Jensen on LinkedIn
    • Subscribe to the AOP Newsletter
    • Subscribe to Art of Procurement on YouTube

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    43 m
  • EP 04: Procurement's Innovation Sandbox: How Digital Garages Deliver Value with Adam Brown
    Apr 8 2026

    "The world as we know it in procurement and tech will change beyond recognition over the next couple of years." - Adam Brown

    Procurement teams are grappling with a wave of new digital solutions and AI-powered tools, making it harder than ever to stay ahead. The role of the CPO is shifting, as leaders must balance business risk, speed-to-value, and a tech landscape that doesn't wait for anyone.

    In this ProcureTech Insider episode, Adam Brown joins host Jyothi Hartley to demystify how procurement organizations can innovate faster while remaining practical. Adam, a founding voice in the ProcureTech100 and veteran of large-scale digital pilots, shares hard-earned lessons on running a "digital garage," partnering with startups, and testing next-gen tech without getting burned.

    If you're looking to compress your innovation cycle and get smarter about where to place your bets, Adam's candid stories and actionable tips offer a blueprint you can use. Listen in for the mindset, models, and steps to get your team "garage ready."

    In this episode, Adam covers:

    • How the digital procurement landscape is evolving faster than ever
    • Where digital garages fit in an innovation strategy for CPOs
    • Practical steps to manage risk and reward with startup partners
    • Realistic ways to pilot AI without putting business continuity at risk

    Links:

    • Adam Brown on LinkedIn
    • Subscribe to the AOP Newsletter
    • Subscribe to Art of Procurement on YouTube

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    29 m
  • 860: Inside AOP's Catalyst Event Series: Elevating CPO Collaboration Beyond the Conference Room W/ Philip Ideson and Jim Cahalan
    Apr 6 2026

    "The goal isn't to create a room where people consume content, it's to create a room where they come ready to work on their organization." - Philip Ideson, Founder and Managing Director, Art of Procurement

    The pace of business change has made traditional procurement conferences feel outdated. Senior procurement leaders can't afford passive learning; they need real conversations with peers who face the same challenges they do.

    That's what the Art of Procurement Catalyst event series was built to deliver.

    This week, AOP Founder and Managing Director Philip Ideson and Jim Cahalan, Art of Procurement's new Director of Events, discuss what makes AOP Catalyst events different from other professional gatherings.

    Jim explains how thoughtful event design, unique venues, and practitioner-led discussions are the keys to outcomes that matter at the CPO level. From building trust among decision-makers to focusing sessions on what you'll do first thing Monday, this episode will help you see event participation as a true 'catalyst' for change.

    Listen to this episode to hear Philip and Jim discuss:

    • Why Catalyst is built for action, not just ideas

    • How unique venues and small group formats drive real conversation

    • The value of practitioner-led facilitation and outside perspectives

    • How CPOs can future-proof their teams beyond AI implementation

    Links:

    Learn more about AOP's Catalyst Event Series for senior procurement leaders

    Philip Ideson on LinkedIn

    Jim Cahalan on LinkedIn

    Subscribe to the AOP Newsletter

    Subscribe to Art of Procurement on YouTube

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    27 m
  • BTW EP 28: Develop Expense-Specific Systems: Why One Dashboard Can't Manage Every Category
    Apr 1 2026

    Procurement talks about "the data" as if it's neutral.

    It rarely is.

    For years, we have talked about "the data" as if it were a single, uniform thing… a stack of invoices, a dashboard of KPIs, a quarterly business review deck handed over by a supplier.

    Here's the problem: invoices are curated. Reports are crafted. And, most of the time, suppliers decide what you see… unless you know what to ask for.

    In this episode of Buy: The Way…To Purposeful Procurement, Brian Gamble, COO at FineTune and a 30-year veteran of indirect services, joins podcast co-hosts Philip Ideson and Rich Ham to unpack BuyLaw #6: "develop expense-specific systems."

    The directive is fairly simple on its surface, but it's also disruptive: no single data set or measurement system works across diverse categories. Uniforms are not utilities. Security is not pest control. Waste is not janitorial supplies. And trying to manage them all with the same playbook guarantees procurement will create blind spots.

    Brian has seen those blind spots from both sides up close, first as a regional VP for a national uniform provider, now as an advisor helping clients defend their P&L against quiet leakage. He doesn't mince words: if your definition of "the data" is whatever appears on an invoice PDF, you are operating inside a commercial narrative written by your supplier.

    The episode walks through examples that sound almost unbelievable until you realize how common they are. Security "dark hours" where posts go unfilled but still get billed. Pest control programs charging for weekly service where there's been no activity in months. Uniform inventory definitions that vary between suppliers, creating a scenario where 17 cents can be far more expensive than 21 cents, depending on what number you're multiplying.

    None of that shows up cleanly on a summary invoice. Which brings us to AI…

    As procurement leans more heavily on AI for benchmarking and research, the technology can generate polished, authoritative answers, even when the underlying data is thin or incomplete. But, the quality of the output rises or falls with the quality of the inputs. For example, Brian shares a live demonstration his team conducted internally: a generalist asking AI for "a good price" in a complex service category gets laughable, contradictory answers. Garbage in, garbage out, so to speak. A more informed user does slightly better. When a true category expert feeds AI high-quality, relevant, structured data does the output become meaningfully useful, and even then, it still requires human judgment to separate signal from noise.

    This episode also challenges another sacred cow in procurement: not all dollars are created equal. A $100 million utilities category might require minimal management. A $1 million uniform program might require 50 times the oversight. Yet procurement teams are often sized and measured purely by spend under management, not complexity, risk, or management intensity.

    If procurement is going to be measured by what actually hits the P&L (as the earlier BuyLaws argue) then they must design contracts, data rights, and reporting structures that allow real validation.

    The future of procurement won't be won by those who have the most data. It will be won by those who know which data matters and, perhaps most importantly, why.

    Links:

    • Rich Ham on LinkedIn
    • Learn more at FineTuneUs.com
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    36 m
  • 859: The Real State of Procurement Orchestration: Trends and Trade-Offs W/ Philip Ideson and Kelly Barner
    Mar 30 2026

    "You don't want to over-engineer orchestration. The goal is progress, not complexity." - Philip Ideson, Founder and Managing Director, Art of Procurement

    There has never been more tech available to procurement, but navigating the orchestration market is anything but simple.

    In this episode, Philip Ideson and Kelly Barner unpack the findings from AOP's upcoming "State of Orchestration" report, which is based on conversations with CPOs, digital leaders, and orchestration providers. They share the big trends, the evolving definition of orchestration, and candid advice on what to ask and look for before you buy.

    Investment is surging, capabilities are converging, and the stakes for business impact keep rising. This episode is your fast-track to understanding where orchestration fits into your tech stack and operating model, and how to choose a solution that aligns with your priorities and risk appetite.

    In this episode, Kelly and Philip cover:

    • The five core categories for evaluating orchestration platforms
    • The questions to ask about native workflow depth versus integrations
    • How to avoid common pitfalls in change management and solution over-customization
    • Real customer adoption trends and what they signal

    Links:

    • Philip Ideson on LinkedIn
    • Kelly Barner on LinkedIn
    • Subscribe to the AOP Newsletter
    • Subscribe to Art of Procurement on YouTube

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    40 m
  • EP 03: Provider of the Week: Samsung SDS Caidentia
    Mar 25 2026

    In this episode of the ProcureTech Insider Provider of the Week, host Jyothi Hartley speaks with Imran Shaikh, Head of Pre-Sales and Business Development at Samsung SDS America, about how AI-powered design-to-source-to-pay orchestration is transforming procurement's role in product development.

    Samsung SDS Caidentia is an AI-powered platform designed to shift procurement upstream, connecting product design, sourcing, and supply decisions before spend occurs. Acting as an orchestration layer between PLM and ERP systems, the platform enables procurement teams to influence cost, risk, and supply resilience earlier in the product life cycle.

    Imran shares how Samsung SDS Caidentia has evolved from a sourcing solution into a cross-functional platform centered around Bill of Materials (BOM) intelligence. In this conversation, they explore how procurement can move beyond transactional execution to become a strategic contributor to product decisions, leveraging AI to simulate cost impacts, assess supplier risk, and improve cross-functional alignment.

    Links:

    • Samsung SDS Caidentia Provider Profile
    • Download the 2025-26 ProcureTech100 Yearbook
    • Subscribe to This Week in Procurement
    • Subscribe to Art of Procurement on YouTube
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    21 m
  • Strategic Divestments: Turning Factory Closures into Supplier Innovation Opportunities W/ Alessandro Comerci
    Mar 23 2026

    "The strategic rationale of selling is not really to make money. It's about preserving 200-plus jobs and making sure your colleagues have continuity in their lives." - Alessandro Comerci

    Strategic divestitures and factory closures have become more common as organizations reshape their portfolios and seek agility. For procurement, these aren't just commercial events: they affect livelihoods, brand trust, and supplier ecosystems. Navigating them well demands a broader set of skills, perspective, and empathy than most of us learn in our core work.

    In this episode, procurement veteran Alessandro Comerci draws on hard-earned experience negotiating large corporate divestments for Procter & Gamble. Alessandro reveals how job preservation, trust-rebuilding, and a nuanced understanding of local realities can drive better outcomes than straightforward cost calculations ever could.

    If you've ever faced tough transitions or wondered how procurement leaders adapt to 'the other side' of the table, Alessandro's practical, candid insights will strike a chord.

    In this episode, Alessandro covers:

    • How job preservation and trust-shaping drive strategic divestments
    • How procurement skills translate to high-stakes selling
    • Why supplier relationships outlast the deal and why that matters
    • How divestments can spark unexpected supplier-led innovation

    Links:

    • Alessandro Comerci on LinkedIn
    • Subscribe to This Week in Procurement
    • Subscribe to Art of Procurement on YouTube

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    28 m