On October 15, 1985, Kathy Sheets returned home from her morning walk and noticed a small package on the driveway. As she reached for it, a bomb—placed by master forger Mark Hofmann in a desperate attempt to divert attention from his collapsing fraud scheme—detonated, taking her life. Kathy's daughter, Heidi Jones, struggled following her mom's passing with bitterness and deep grief but on today's episode, she shares how a decision to forgive made all the difference.

2:00- The 50-Year-Old Housewife
5:07-October 15, 1985
8:41- The Unseen Aftermath
11:18- An All-Consuming Grief
13:41- Letting Go of Bitterness
19:18- Reconciliation and Testimony
22:03- Forgiving the Unfairness of Life
27:25- The Unseen Aftermath…Again
32:06- Gaining Perspective
35:16- No Unfinished Business
38:59- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"To apply Christ's Atonement in my life I had to be able to take that huge burden, that oppression, and lay it at the Savior's feet and leave it. Lay it and leave it."

Emily Utt has one of the most unique jobs within the Church: she spends her days inside its most sacred and historic spaces. Sometimes that means slipping on a hard hat; other times it means uncovering stories and artifacts that deepen our understanding of the faith's heritage. In this episode, Emily shares what she's learned from a career spent safeguarding holy places—and why these spaces should matter to each of us.

1:43- What Constitutes a Sacred Space?
4:49- Remembering and Connection
9:55- We are Them
16:40- A Very Cool Job
19:09- Principles of Preservation
24:47- Appropriateness and Real People
27:22- Why Spend Time in Sacred Spaces?
31:33- Kirtland Temple
37:46- Until You've Been in Their Home
44:21- Looking Forward and Looking Back
50:07- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"I imagine every person in the world has a place that would be their waters of Mormon and how beautiful is that place, for there they came to know God."

Links:
Follow Him podcast with Emily- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/followhim/id1545433056?i=100070927727

Hi Five Live with Emily- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy1wPXog1q8

Mike Maughan was serving in a YSA bishopric when he heard Blake Roney, now the president of the Provo City Center Temple say, "We are not the gatekeepers, we are the welcoming committee." That single statement changed the way Mike has lived in the years since and it changed the culture of the YSA ward in which he was serving. On this week's episode, Mike discusses the transformative nature of that experience.

2:26- Freed From the Burden of Judgment
7:53- Take Them By the Hand
18:52- Application
26:01- Changing the Tune, Not the Lyrics
31:38- Never Burn a Bridge and Always Be Kind
35:37- The Power of Experience
44:08- Committing Completely
51:52- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

"Life is long and the world is small."

Links:

Annette Dennis- "We are commanded to love others, not to judge them. Let's lay down that heavy burden; it isn't ours to carry. Instead, we can pick up the Savior's yoke of love and compassion." https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ftsoy/2022/11/18-dennis?lang=eng

"Nothing is so much calculated to lead people to forsake sin as to take them by the hand, and watch over them with tenderness. When persons manifest the least kindness and love to me, O what power it has over my mind, while the opposite course has a tendency to harrow up all the harsh feelings and depress the human mind" (History of the Church, 5:23–24).

Elder Kearon's general conference talk mentioned- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2024/04/45kearon?lang=eng

Elder S. Mark Palmer general conference talk mentioned- https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2017/04/then-jesus-beholding-him-loved-him?lang=eng

Amy Coney Barrett's Book, "Listening to the Law"- https://www.amazon.com/Listening-Law-Reflections-Court-Constitution/dp/0593421868