In this third episode with Spencer Robinette, Raz and Jamie explore what it means to be a minister with Jesus—not just inside the walls of a church, but out in the world where most people live and work. Ministry isn’t just for vocational pastors—it’s for every follower of Jesus, wherever they are.

Rooted in Ephesians 4:11–12
, the conversation highlights God’s design for church leaders to equip the saints for the work of ministry. That means pastors aren’t called to do all the ministry for people, but to train and release God’s people to live as ministers in their workplaces, families, and communities.

Spencer shares stories from his time as a barista—where his pastor’s heart came alive behind a coffee bar—and how he continues to live out his ministry calling now as a sales rep at Windows Plus
.

He shares 3 core values for doing marketplace ministry:

• Work as Worship – Everything we do is an offering to God.
• Work as Service – Serving people matters more than closing a deal.
• Work with Integrity – Honoring people with honesty, not manipulation.

The guys also talk about how to practically bring Jesus into your everyday work life—like praying before meetings, listening for the Spirit’s guidance, and remembering what Jesus said: “My Father is always at work
.” That means your work matters, and you never do it alone. In fact, the Father has already prepared good works for you to walk in today (Ephesians 2:10
). He’s intentional, and He invites you to partner with Him—right where you are.

Resources Mentioned:

Dangerous and Beautiful by Revivaltown Music (Spencer Robinette)

• Amazon Music
• Spotify
• iTunes / Apple Music

Rooted Discipleship Classes (including "Faith at Work")

Windows Plus Cincinnati

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In this powerful follow-up conversation, Raz and Jamie sit down again with Spencer Robinette to go deeper into his journey in ministry and grief. Spencer shares about serving in full-time vocational ministry—leading youth and worship, planting a church, and eventually merging that young plant with his dad’s older, more traditional congregation. He describes the joy and privilege of serving in ministry alongside his father… and the heartbreak of losing him just a few years later.

Spencer opens up about what he learned—and what he regrets—during the grieving process. Feeling responsible for the congregation’s healing, he neglected his own grief. That is, until a raw and powerful encounter with Jesus in his car on one of his darkest, angriest days. Jesus simply said, “Let it out.” What followed was 30 minutes of honest lament—anger, pain, questions—and the healing presence of Jesus who responded, “I hear you. I love you.”

This episode is a tender and courageous look at grief, lament, and the God who meets us in both. Spencer encourages listeners not to stuff their pain and pretend everything is okay, but to bring it honestly to Jesus—who welcomes our cries and begins the work of healing.

Resources Mentioned

Dangerous and Beautiful by Revivaltown Music (Spencer Robinette)
Available on:

• Amazon Music
• Spotify
• iTunes / Apple Music
  
  

A Grief Observed by C. S. Lewis
Available on Amazon

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In this episode, Jamie and Raz talk about the difference between reading the Bible academically versus relationally. Too often we treat Scripture as information to master, rather than an invitation to engage with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

They share four practical ways to begin reading the Bible relationally:
Prayer — Talk with God as you read. Picture Jesus with you and engage Him in conversation about the Scriptures.
Story — See the Bible as your family story. God is Father, we’ve been grafted into His people Israel, and we get to learn how our royal family lives and loves.
Theology — Study God Himself as a person—what He loves, hates, desires, and plans. Reading the Bible this way helps us know His heart and encounter Him.
Obedience — Be doers of the Word. Obeying what we learn is deeply relational because we do it, partnering with Jesus and the Spirit.

Finally, Jamie and Raz invite listeners to join the upcoming church-wide Bible reading journey starting soon.

👉 Click here to join the YOUR STORY group journey!

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In this episode, Raz and Jamie talk about resilience and how to stay rooted in Jesus when life gets hard. Raz shares a powerful story of experiencing a panic attack while visiting his 95-year-old mom, realizing it was a spiritual attack, and how prayer from his church community lifted the darkness and brought peace.

Together they reflect on:

• Why being deeply connected to Jesus is the key to resilience.
• The importance of surrounding yourself with a faith-filled, praying community.
• Holding on to Jesus as the One constant through life’s storms.
• Encouragement and prayer for listeners walking through difficult seasons.

If you’re in the Cincinnati area, you’re invited to join Raz for a 6-week Rooted Discipleship class on Living a Resilient Life starting this October at Mariemont Church.
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In this follow-up conversation, Raz and Jamie sit down again with Erik Wilson—worship leader, ordained minister, and church-planter—to hear about his journey of planting Freedom City Church
in Cincinnati.

Erik shares about:

• The transition from being a worship leader and musician to embracing God’s call as a preacher and pastor.
• Why cultivating a life of worship in the secret place is vital for every pastor.
• The supernatural way God the Father confirmed His call for Erik to plant Freedom City Church
  .
• Lessons learned after the first year of planting.
• What he believes God is doing as Freedom City enters year two.

This is a powerful conversation about stepping into God’s call with faith, obedience, and worship.

To Connect with Erik:
Freedom City Church

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In this episode, Raz and Jamie sit down with Erik Wilson—worship leader, ordained minister, and church-planter—to explore his story of following Jesus through unexpected turns.

Erik shares about:

• Growing up as a pastor’s kid, yet realizing in 9th grade that he needed to own his faith for himself.
• His early pursuit of a career in vocal performance and the dream of becoming an opera singer.
• How God redirected his path into full-time vocational ministry as a worship leader.
• The difference between performing for personal glory versus leading from a heart that desires to glorify God.
• How being a father has given him a deeper understanding of God the Father’s heart of love—and pain—for His kids.

This is part one of our conversation with Erik—be sure to listen for part two in the next episode!

To Connect with Erik:

• Freedom City Church: https://www.freedomcitycincy.com
  
  

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In this episode, Raz and Jamie welcome back their first-ever second-time guest — Jess Moore!

Jess is a licensed therapist who helps people experience healing and freedom through professional counseling with Jesus. Together, they explore the connection between psychology and Scripture when it comes to our minds, thoughts, and emotions.

Jess introduces the cognitive triangle from Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT):

• Thoughts – what we THINK affects how we feel and act
• Feelings – how we FEEL affects how we act and what we think
• Behaviors – what we DO affects how we think and feel

She explains how identifying and “switching” unhelpful thoughts can lead to healthier emotions and better actions — something Scripture teaches as well. They reflect on:

• Romans 12:2 — Be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
• 2 Corinthians 10:5 — Take every thought captive to make it obedient to Christ.

The conversation also touches on neuroplasticity — how the brain can be rewired with new thoughts — and how walking with Jesus makes this transformation possible.

To Connect with Jess:

• Jess' counseling website: abundantlifecincy.com
• Jess' email: jessmoore.alc@gmail.com

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In this episode, Raz and Jamie talk with Steve Eklund about his journey of faith, renewal, and kingdom-minded leadership.

Steve shares how he came to faith in Jesus at 16, built a successful career in wealth management, and enjoyed a thriving family life — yet found his heart had quietly grown cold to God by the time he was 50. This realization sparked a deep question: “Do I really know love?”

That question led Steve into a fresh pursuit of God’s love and how to bring it into every sphere of life — from his business and ministry to his family and leadership. Today, as a real estate investor and coach/consultant, Steve helps individuals and companies discover how to integrate the Kingdom of God into their everyday work and relationships.

Resources Mentioned:

• The Prodigal God: Recovering the Heart of the Christian Faith — Tim Keller: Amazon link
• The Leadership Challenge: Amazon link
• The New One-Minute Manager: Amazon link

To Connect with Steve:

• Email: eklund.steve@gmail.com
• Nonprofit consulting: Witheos
• Real Estate: Community First Properties
• LinkedIn: Steve Eklund

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