Elias Kanaris joined me to share his incredible journey from his upbringing in Libya to his leadership development work as a CEO. His story is one of influence, resilience, and the power of values instilled early in life. Elias's international background and his ability to navigate cultural nuances offer a rich perspective on leadership that transcends borders.

Elias's experience during the tragic events of 11 September 2001 serves as a stark reminder of the need for adaptability in leadership. Stranded in Gander, Newfoundland, for five days, he learned invaluable lessons about self-care, the importance of community, and the necessity to rewrite the rules in the face of change. His insights are a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the capacity for leaders to emerge stronger from adversity.

Shownotes

See more at http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/elias-kanaris-leadership-journey

Key Moments

Planet Human: Inspired by Mary Beard’s SPQR The History of Ancient Rome, reflecting on the 2000 year history of Rome and what it tells us about society - and leadership - today. From savagery to community we’ve come a long way!

Planet Zoë: I'm focused on Power Games, which is my next non-fiction book. I'm drilling into what happens at workplaces when we play these power games. And how can we navigate that?

Elias Kanaris' background (00:06:15) Elias Kanaris talks about his upbringing in Libya, values instilled by his parents, and how it led him to leadership.

Elias Kanaris' experience on 9/11 (00:09:46) Elias Kanaris shares his experience of being on a diverted flight during the events of 9/11 and spending five days in Gander, Newfoundland, Canada.

Lessons learned from the experience (00:15:08) Elias Kanaris discusses the lessons he learned during the 9/11 experience, including the importance of self-care, looking after others, and adapting to changing rules.

The power of language and communication (00:18:35) Elias Kanaris talks about the significance of words, shares a study on the impact of positive and negative words, and provides recommendations for leaders to use language wisely.

Filtering Out the Negative (00:22:37) Discussion on the danger of filtering out negative aspects and the need to maintain positivity amidst destruction.

Balanced View of Life (00:23:10) Importance of having a balanced view of life, considering personal faith, and applying transparency to received information.

Emotional Maturity and Forgiveness (00:26:07) Exploration of Nelson Mandela's forgiveness as a reflection of emotional maturity and the impact of forgiveness on personal growth.

The Power of Forgiveness (00:28:42) Discussion on forgiveness, the impact of holding grudges, and the concept of atonement versus forgiveness.

Adapting to Change (00:30:59) Adapting to change, evaluating decisions, and the importance of seeking alternative perspectives and mentorship.

Leadership Insights and Fast Five (00:33:36) Insights on leadership tips, challenges in the workplace, and a fast-paced Q&A session with Elias Kanaris.

Balancing Past Wrongs (00:38:36) Exploration of balancing past wrongs from an indigenous perspective and the need for leaders to accept responsibility for historical failings.

The Power of Forgiveness and Courage (00:39:16) Reflection on the power of forgiveness, separating individuals from their deeds, and the story of Malala Yousafzai as a model of forgiveness and positive focus.

We are exploring the important but often overlooked art of negotiation with expert Sam Trattles, who shares her journey to loving something that many people hate. We explore Sam’s uniquely Australian APEC method and discuss the nuances of high-stakes negotiations, such as those in international conflicts. Our conversation covers managing emotions, understanding motivations, and the impact of power dynamics. Sam imparts wisdom on engaging with senior leaders and the importance of mindset in seeking fair outcomes. Whether you're navigating boardroom battles or seeking to resolve complex conflicts, this episode is packed with actionable insights that will elevate your negotiation game.

Shownotes

See more at: http://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/leadership-framework-sam-trattles

Key Moments

Planet Human: Exploring the little incremental changes add up to a big change in society - from telehealth and e-scripts to identify theft and proving we are human!

Planet Zoë: Enjoying a period of routine at home before it’s time to hit the powder. Olympus Rising is almost ready to go to the editor and then the focus will be on on Zoë’s first non-fiction book in four and a half years, tentatively called Power Games.

Introduction to Negotiation and Sam Trattles (00:04:32)

Zoë Routh introduces Sam Trattles, an expert in negotiation, and sets the stage for the discussion on negotiation.

Sam Trattles' Journey into Negotiation (00:06:00)

Sam Trattles discusses her background in negotiation and her transition into negotiation training and development.

Corporate Negotiation Experiences (00:07:42)

Sam shares her experiences negotiating contracts, sponsorships, and leadership challenges in corporate roles.

The Enjoyment of Negotiation and Healthy Debate (00:08:30)

Sam explains her love for problem-solving and the importance of healthy debate in negotiation.

The APEC Method of Negotiation (00:12:36)

Introducing the APEC method, emphasising the significance of preparation and the steps involved in the negotiation process.

Complex Negotiations (00:19:28)

Discussion on handling high-stakes, complex negotiations with different ideologies and emotional baggage.

Dealing with Difficult People (00:20:10)

Considerations for negotiating with difficult individuals, understanding motivations, and seeking fair outcomes.

Emotions in Negotiation (00:22:24)

Addressing emotional influences in negotiations, managing emotions, and facilitating problem-solving.

Managing Emotions in Negotiations (00:26:54)

Strategies for managing emotions in difficult conversations and high-stakes negotiations.

Power Dynamics in Negotiations (00:28:33)

Exploring real versus perceived power, and strategies for cutting through power dynamics in negotiations.

Negotiation Mindset (00:36:15)

Encouraging a change in mindset by reframing negotiation as conversations and consciously observing negotiation opportunities.

Emotional Aikido Skills (00:39:44)

Explanation of five emotional aikido skills to manage emotions during high-tension situations in negotiation.