Whether its inclement weather or the next pandemic, Jessica Fanion is the type of professional who works every day to support a community on what could be its worst day. But what about a zombie apocalypse? Sam asks Jessica her thoughts as an emergency preparedness professional while also feeling free to share a few of his own.

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Season 2 kicks off with a shorter but impactful conversation as Nisha Powers shares how the work of civil engineers is often a bit different from other professionals involved on a particular building project. With her many years of experience, Nisha clarifies that civil engineers seem to always be associated with or around dirt. And by dirt, we mean real dirt and not gossip.

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Sam chats with his Uncle Bunky who shares how his background in computers and information technology led him to a career in ESG which stands for Emotional Social and Governance. As discussed during the podcast, ESG should not be confused with MSG which stands for the flavor enhancer, monosodium glutamate or the prime time sports arena, Madison Square Garden (Home of the Knicks). For a select few, it shouldn't be confused with LSG either which stood for the R&B singing group featuring Gerald Levert (L), Keith Sweat (S) and Johnny Gill (G). ESG is how companies seek to evaluate their sustainability and impact in an effort to treat people well.

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